New F/Glass build DownUnder - Adelaide - What have I let myself in for?... :)

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Australia is the last to complete my collection of continents. Have you decided on the rent rate for your equipment room? I would like to stay there for my visit.
 
riley00dog said:
Wow! It looks so clean and neat with the tiling complete. I think it’s going to be the most luxurious equipment room in existence.
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A tad overkill for an equipment 'out of sight' solution and having a tech background I like to ensure the equipment is out of the elements.



Dirk said:
Australia is the last to complete my collection of continents.
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...about time you made it DownUnder then - Just ensure it is in the warmer months!
 
needsajet said:
First class mate. Very nice!! :)
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Started to plumb in my waste within the confines of the plant room.

50mm pipe - also added a large viewing port for the waste discharge rather than having to rely on the smaller viewing glass on the filter.

Basically it is a cheap check-valve which I have removed the internals so it then becomes a reasonably large viewing port.


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Also utilising two compression style fittings along the two internal wall perimeters that my waste pipe runs along.

This enables me to disassemble and remove the complete waste pipe run with ease if I ever need to for maintenance or simply to clean the floor right in the corners etc.

The advantage over this style of fitting is that one can adjust the pipe length in and out to achieve a perfect fit between two enclosed walls.


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I even managed to not spill any glue or primer on the floor or get any on my hands...!!!


More to do tomorrow to finish the run.
 
riley00dog said:
Such a work of beauty!
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While it looks neat - I work pretty slow so I don't think anyone would hire me to do their PVC runs...!

I don't normally play with PVC fittings on a day to day basis so I tend to measure 3x and re-measure again just to make sure... :)
 
He just jinxed his self!!! Today is a whole new day to make a mess! LOL

That looks awesome and very well thought out down to being able to clean in the corners!

I can't wait to see the viewing port done and in action!
 

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Costas > DownUnder said:
You will find them extremely handy. Just check it during the morning/day tomorrow just in case it has captured lots of debris.
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Thanks will do. I typically get zero debris in the skimmer basket unless it’s extremely windy. It had been about 5 days since I last checked it and there was nothing in it tonight. Not even one solitary leaf. Mind you the hairnet will trap much finer particles so will definitely keep a closer eye on it. They fit beautifully. So much better than the skimmer socks and I feel allow for better flow too.
 
needsajet said:
better than trade
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As we more than likely all have experienced - They usually just want to get in and out fast so quality suffers sometimes.


Only had a couple of hours free to work on the equipment today.

Completed the connection from my filter waste outlet to the main waste line entering the room...!

If you look carefully, I have fitted a 'T' to the incoming waste line at the wall. This is to facilitate a couple more connections to the main waste line.

One will be a direct connection to my Multicyclone's 25mm drain pipe.

Another will simply be an open port (will be controlled via 2 way valve) so that I can run a hose direct to my waste pipe if I ever need to empty the pool via a standalone submerged pump etc in an emergency or other situation which requires I dump pool water somewhere if my main pump is out of action.

I'll see if I can sort those out tomorrow!


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Quick pic of my waste water 'view port' which as mentioned previously is a one way check valve with the internals removed.

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While my pumps were disconnected - I also decided to cut some 6mm thick rubber mats for them to sit on - Provides for vibration absorption and a little less noise (in theory :mrgreen: ).

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I'm not entirely happy with my main pump's location so I am thinking of moving it in further - more towards the centre of the room as the inlet union is currently in a bad spot right up against the other pipes. Makes it awkward to service etc.

A job for another weekend... :)
 
I think I've read/heard from different sources that the pipe run before the pump should be a certain straight length for better performance (or was it priming?). 12"? 18"? Also the pipe exiting the pump a certain length (different sources of info). Sorry, it's a little vague in my ol' brain. Something to look into, or just do, as neither can hurt. Maybe there's a mention of it in the pump's manual?

I like the pump pads. Do you still bolt through them?

Also like the "Minnion" view port!! ;)

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Dirk said:
I think I've read/heard from different sources that the pipe run before the pump should be a certain straight length for better performance (or was it priming?).
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Hi Dirk...

Yes you are correct - although in my case the pipe exits the room through the wall and has around 12" before the first elbow.

The reason to try and have a long straight entry into a pump is to maximise laminar flow which results in less noise at the entry point and a slight performance increase however the main reason is to reduce noise.


Dirk said:
I like the pump pads. Do you still bolt through them?
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Not bolted - Pumps just sitting on the rubber which provides plenty of grip.


Dirk said:
Also like the "Minnion" view port!!
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Ha Ha.....:laughblue:
 
Clearly you know more about this than me. But in your pic, I'm seeing a 90 1" before the pump. I would have thought that's where the 12" run needs to be.

And wouldn't the pump motor's torque put a little stress on the pipes entering and exiting, each time the pump comes on? And maybe even while running? The pump's not going to move around on the pads, but I'm thinking it will stress the PVC over time. No?
 
Dirk said:
Clearly you know more about this than me. But in your pic, I'm seeing a 90 1" before the pump. I would have thought that's where the 12" run needs to be.
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Ok - Pictured is my solar pump and not my main pump - Yes, not optimum but it does not have the same high flow rate of my main pump so not sure how much that one would benefit noise wise from a longer straight run - It is reasonably quiet as it is.


Dirk said:
And wouldn't the pump motor's torque put a little stress on the pipes entering and exiting, each time the pump comes on? And maybe even while running? The pump's not going to move around on the pads, but I'm thinking it will stress the PVC over time. No?
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Good question - Not sure if anyone has any stats on something like that.

The pumps don't have any visible movement that I have noticed. Even when I had them sitting directly on the tiles they did not seem to move at all, so not sure how much torque is actually being exerted to the outer body of the pump.

Maybe tomorrow I'll setup a dial indicator up against say the inlet body of my pumps to see if any deflection occurs on powering them up.

From what I could glean, the majority of installers here in Aus don't seem to bolt the pumps down.
 
Interesting about the noise factor of that leading pipe. I figured it had something to do with head, or priming, or something. If it's just noise, and you aren't getting enough to matter, then it sounds like you have that covered.

Not sure you'd see the torque or not. And it's possible the pad would actually contribute, as now you've introduced a third axis. Before, the pump could torque left and right, and back and forth, now with the pad, it's up and down, too. This is all microscopic movements, and the weight of the pump alone is keeping it stable. PVC can flex, so this is maybe a complete non-issue. But it does get old, and brittle eventually. In time for any of this to matter in the slightest? Who knows. My pump is bolted down, I just figured there must be a reason for it.

Either way, as long as I've created more work for you, then my work is done! ;)
 
Dirk said:
I just figured there must be a reason for it.
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Earthquakes...? :mrgreen:


Speaking of flexing - on a lot of installations you may see some PVC pipes move slightly (especially longer runs) when the pump changes RPM from hi to low or vice versa.

Not sure if it has been a large issue or not in regards to ultimate failure of the joints.
 
Exactly. All the PVC on my roof (solar panels and connecting pipes) is probably torquing around all over the place, multiple times, everyday. Not to mention expanding and contracting, happily grinding away on top of my concrete tiles. I'll be up there in a decade or two fixing all those leaks!! It's all the same principle: moving parts are more prone to failure.
 

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