New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

So after almost 7 years of sevice with my S200 variant (Doheny Discovery), I finally got tired. Don't get me wrong, it worked great and I probably didn't treat it like I should have, but the cost of the motor unit has driven me to try the Evo. So today, after reading this post mainly, I ordered the 614 IQ from Margret. Also, after researching things, I found out that is Robot is also sold under the Polaris Epic 8642 IQ branding. The Polaris and Aqua Products branded Robots are exactly the same in fuction, including what can be done with the App. Also, the Polaris comes standard with a caddy, which is optional with the EVO 614IQ. Not exactly sure why, but the Polaris usually retails for $1099-$1399, which can't touch the out the door price of $849 I paid from Marina's. I will say, the Polaris comes with a clear top cover, which makes it easy to see the debris without opening the robot. I might try to order the Polaris replacement from Margret.



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Aqua Products Evo 614iq first impressions (3 weeks of use):

In a nutshell; good suction, turns on a dime, not good for settled dust.

I finally replaced my Dolphin Active 30i/S300 (same guts as S200) after replacing the motor and every other moving part over 2 years, so this is also a comparison to that unit.

Overall General Cleaning:
Not quite as good as the Dolphin but comparable for typical environments, although I have noticed that it seems to miss more areas than the Dolphin even if I run back-to-back cycles.

Suction:
Seems a little stronger than the Dolphin. My landscaper likes to blow small pebbles into the pool and I usually have to dive down and pick them up by hand, but the Evo was able to suck up a few of them.

Filter/Basket:
Works well for medium to large debris, and very easy to dump and replace (the Dolphin dual filter was awesome but a little more of a chore). One concern is that very small debris is ejected from the top port of the Evo throughout the cleaning cycle. It’s not a significant amount, and it’s very possible that I would see the same from a new Dolphin if I watched it as closely. I think this could be improved if there was a little better seal between the lid and the basket (more on that below).
In regard to fine dust in the desert SW, unfortunately it’s a fail. After a couple good AZ storms, I’ve been able to really get a good look at how it handles settled dust. In short, it just re-circulates it. The Dolphin would collect the dust and it would cake together like mud between the dual filter surfaces...a bit of a mess to rinse out, but a sure sign that it was working. The Evo filter doesn’t hold any of the dust, just larger grains of sand. At the very best, maybe (maybe) the Evo helps circulate some of the dust to the pool drains, but either way I’m still having to manually sweep a lot more with my pool brush. I think this could possibly be resolved if there was an optional 2-stage filter system similar to the Dolphin.
I’ve said it before, and obviously this more of a specific regional issue, but in the SW we get a layer of this dust on the bottom of our pools after every storm, it’s too much for in-floor pop-ups to circulate it back to the main pool drains and filter, but it’s also light enough that many self-contained vacs will just suck it up and blow it right back into the pool.

Wall/Waterline Cleaning:
Not nearly as good as the Dolphin (when the Dolphin would actually climb walls). The pool I have now is basically a rectangle, and after watching the Evo go back and forth over multiple cycles, I can’t figure out the pattern. It will climb the wall on one side and hover at the water line nicely, then go back down, do a 180, and head to the wall on the other side, but on that side it might only go about a quarter of the way up. After a few more passes it gets up to the water line on the second side, but then only partially up the first side. No apparent rhyme or reason, and it seems to miss a lot of spots along the bottom of the wall where it curves into the floor. With the dolphin it seemed like, if it found a wall, it just knew to climb it until it reached the surface, then scrub along the water line.
The Evo also seems a little less smart when it does reach the water line. Once it gets there, it stays in the same spot (no lateral movement). I guess that one spot gets a good scrub, but I was always impressed by the Dolphin’s ability to thrust-vector itself along the surface a few inches before it dropped back down (again, only cool when it actually worked). Something about the waterline cleaning with the Evo also makes me think it’s going to burn through tracks fairly quickly.

Removal:
When I remove the Evo from the pool by the handle as directed, water flows out immediately, so it gets much lighter much quicker than the Dolphin which was quite heavy and slow to drain, BUT it will dump a lot of dirty water back into the pool from the top port if you just lift it straight out. You really have to be deliberate when you pull it out as not to let the dirty water escape through the top or the back. I think part of the problem is a poor seal between the lid and the basket and the other problem is that everything in the basket area slopes directly toward the top and rear ports as you pull the unit from the water (good for quick water evacuation, not so good for debris retention). When I open the lid after the unit has been pulled out of the water, I can see a trail of sediment from the bottom of the basket up through the gasket where the lid comes down.
Oddly enough there seems to be less of an issue with this when using the Lift feature (only on the IQ model with the app). I didn’t plan on using the app much, but I was curious about this feature, so I tried it out. With the propeller continuing to spin as the bot climbs up to the surface, the flow and pressure seems to keep the dirty water in and only clean water coming out.

Modes:
The Evo just has two modes; Floor Only, or Floor/Walls/Waterline. I like that it’s simple, but I do miss the Waterline Only mode on the Dolphin, and I don’t see the Evo handling the waterline very well in everything-mode.

Less-tangle Cable:
I appreciate that there was a more robust attempt at a tangle-free cable, but I'm not sure how much good it will do. I will say it’s much easier to get things sorted out once you do get twisted... the built-in anti-tangle device makes it much easier to relax a twisted cable, and the quick-connect on the controller end makes it a breeze to unplug, unwind, and reconnect.
I don’t see any significant improvement for these in the future short of someone actually changing the shape to something that is maybe more horizontal on the floating/surface end and curves down more vertical on the submerged end (with the spinner in the vertical section), then add a couple anti-rotation fins on the horizontal surface end. Or something like that.
I also don’t love that the cable is at the front of the bot. It always seems to be in the way when opening and closing the lid, and when placing the bot in the pool and trying to turn it away from the wall (which is recommended)... and I personally prefer a clearer representation of a front and back on a cleaner (this one looks a little backwards), but that’s just me.

App:
I didn’t think I’d use the app for much, but I had the impression that it was necessary if you wanted the ability to update controller firmware (and I did pay extra for it). It connects seamlessly via Bluetooth, and fairly simply to wifi. It doesn’t have as many bells and whistles as the MyDolphin app but it is more responsive. One thing I’ve found kind of useful is that it can send a push notification to my iphone when it completes a cycle... that means on a particularly dirty day or night I can start a new cycle from the app immediately after the first cycle finishes without having to go out to the pool.

Thoughts for now:
It’s not as smart as the Active 30/S300 and certainly didn’t blow me away in any performance aspect, but if it lasts longer than the Dolphin, I’d recommend it for basic pool cleaning (especially since it’s slightly less expensive). If you live in the desert SW however, I would stick with something that has a better filter system, even if it’s a little more expensive.

I think it would take a pretty major revision to improve things like overall coverage and wall/waterline cleaning, but other things like a 2-stage filter and a better seal could be easier fixes (my vote would be to call that a “basket gasket”!).
 
Dan,

Seems like you and I agree on most things...

I don't live in AZ, so have no experience with the filter other than it works just as good as my Dolphin filter for what gets in my pool. Your findings is why I had assumed that I would not like the screen filter, but for me it works better.

My EVO seems to do a pretty good job of doing the waterline tile. I think it does a better job than my S200. That said, when my EVO comes up to the waterline it is tilted to one side.. When the brushes spin, it seems to move it right along the tile line for a couple of feet before going back down. I admit, I don't sit out there and watch it, so for all I know it comes up in the same spot every time, but I really doubt it.

I don't notice it dumping dirt back into the pool when I take it out. I'll take another look at it tomorrow, but I don't remember anything coming out the impeller opening.

Thanks for your review, as the more inputs we get, the better people will know what they are getting or not getting.. :mrgreen:

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Jim,

Great review, thanks much. Do you know if it has an automation mode so I can put it in a smart plug and have it turn on to run a cycle without messing with the controller? All of the 200 series have this even though it's undocumented on some like the Warrior SE. For me this is a pretty important feature.

Chris
 
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Chris,

As far as I know there is no 'smart plug' capability.. Plus.. it has no weekly timer. I find this pretty shocking as it eliminates at least 50% of their possible customer base...

You have to manually push the on button, or you have to manually use the app to turn it on. This works great for people like me that only put it in the pool 2 or 3 times a week, but does not work at all for those that want the robot to stay in the pool.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Chris,

As far as I know there is no 'smart plug' capability.. Plus.. it has no weekly timer. I find this pretty shocking as it eliminates at least 50% of their possible customer base...

You have to manually push the on button, or you have to manually use the app to turn it on. This works great for people like me that only put it in the pool 2 or 3 times a week, but does not work at all for those that want the robot to stay in the pool.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Thanks for the quick reply Jim. Maybe they'll add it one day. So I'll stay with the 200 then and with Margaret.

Chris
 
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I've used my 614iq 4 times now. I'm surprised, once I got the app connected to our WiFi, how good the machine holds onto signal - we have abysmally poor internet here, using a cell phone device in house. I was not expecting to be able to use the app without major hoops but have been successful just moving an extender into the kitchen.

As for the app, I now use the "lift" function after the first time pulling it out of the pool and aggravating my stenosis issues. The lift is easy peasy for me.

As for cleaning? So far, meh. Does the floor beautifully. Walls, not so much. We have an oval pool with hopper bottom and safety ledge - size of the rollers preclude getting the back edge of that clean. It is, however, able to climb up and over the safety ledge to get to the water line. It seems to miss spots on the walls, and the same spots each time. Currently, suspicion that there may be some biofilm making the wall slippery so once the rain stops, I'll be brushing the walls to see if "Pool Boy Johnny" can maintain the surface once it's clean. In most places it comes right up to the waterline and does it's swishy roller thing. On the next dry day when I have the time, I'll go play with the remote control to see how that functions. Hopefully, I won't drop my phone into the pool🙄 Mind you, I've never been good at video games so we shall see...
 
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UT it will dump a lot of dirty water back into the pool from the top port if you just lift it straight out.
@ifunlisted

So, I looked at my EVO today and do not understand how it is dumping dirty water back into the pool.

The filter basket is in a 'sealed' box, for the lack of a better term.. There is a one way door where the dirty pool water comes in and the lid seals to the top of the filter basket, so at first glance I can't see where the dirty water would come from... Maybe the gasket on top of your filter basket is missing or not making good contact.. :scratch: I doubt the seal is perfect, but I would not expect it be so bad that all the dirty water would flow right past it..

I'm trying to figure out a way I can duplicate your problem, without throwing a gallon of dirt in my pool... :mrgreen:

I am sure what you are saying is true, but it is not obvious to me why.

All my Dolphin's leak dirty stuff back into the pool, not a lot, but enough to notice, so I would think I would notice the EVO doing the same thing.

I am not sure about your comment on the cable being in the way of opening the lid. My cable is off to the side and not in the way at all. ??? But... I find that because it is off to the side, that when I pull the robot over to the side of the pool to pull it out, it often makes the robot spin so the track are pointed toward the pool and not the coping. I plan to drill a small hole in the handle, and use a zip-tie, so that the cable is held more in the center of the robot and not at the side.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

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As i am currently having trouble with my Wanda Whale vacuum i am entertaining an EVO type of cleaner.

I have a 30' round above ground pool. Is the EVO (and its ilk) overkill for a pool like this?

I also have a neighbors tree that creates these pods (think of a flat green bean about 7-8" long. How would any of these cleaners work with such debris?

Also, what happens when an Evo comes across sticks?
 
Two full runs in with 614iq and I love this thing. Is it perfect, no, but neither was the S200 variant it replaced. Plus, this doesn't freak out on my 12" Baja step like them dolphin. Lift out feature is slow, but it is awesome. Time will tell how durable this robot is, but we might have a winner here. Last... thanks again Margret from Marinas, your service knocks it out of the park every time I order from you.
 
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@DenicioDelToro

I know nothing about above ground pools, but don't think that robot is going to help too much.

They are good at picking up sand-like dirt from the your pool and soft things like leaves.. but they are not good at picking up sticks and hard seed pods.

They have to suck whatever they are picking up through somewhat narrow slots to get it into a waste basket.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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A leaf rake is better for pods like that , then the robot or vacuum takes all the small stuff and dirt. You wouldn’t be able to vacuum a long pod with a manual vacuum either
 
I used to use something like this in the spring when junk from the cover would fall in (before we finally bought a cover pump and figured out how to get the cover of without dumping crud in the pool.) Hook it up to a garden hose and it starts a venturi. Just make sure the bag is tied on right.

 
@DenicioDelToro

I know nothing about above ground pools, but don't think that robot is going to help too much.

The are good at picking up sand-like dirt from the your pool and soft things like leaves.. but they are not good at picking up sticks and hard seed pods.

They have to suck whatever they are picking up through somewhat narrow slots to get it into a waste basket.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Jim,

Thanks! I have decided to go with a rechargeable pool vacuum before i make a HUGE investment in a robot. Going this route eliminates using my pool's filter system. I may end up getting one of the cheaper robots to supplement what i dont nab with the new pool vacuum.

I am getting this. At 130.00 bux, it wont break the bank to see if this is a viable solution for my needs.

 
I have a Dolphin Escape for my AGP. But yeah, the big stuff I have to scoop out with pool leaf rake.
 
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I'll say, while it doesn't have a schedule function, if your intent is to leave it in the pool, if you have the 614iq, you could simply set yourself a reminder on your phone to go into the app and start a cleaning cycle.

In terms of picking up larger debris - mine has been picking up all these Dang cicadas that end up at the bottom. 😂
 
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Sam,

I am very happy with the EVO, but then everyone was happy with the Dolphins until they started to die.. But this took several years, so only time will tell if the EVO lasts longer. I hope so, but have no way to see the future.

If your Dolphin picked it up, then I would have to assume the EVO would do just as well if not better.

Still no scheduling... This is not an issue for me as this time a year the robot only goes in the pool once or maybe twice a week. I can see who it could be a hard turn off for many others...

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

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