Need advise on gunite spa - single pump dual mode?

kapooramit7

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Hello All,

We are building a 16 X 28 pool with 6 X 6 Spa tucked in a corner. I understand there are limitations to the true spa experience one could achieve with a gunite spa. I am just trying to get at least one (preferably two) seats in my Spa to have decent therapeutic experience. Originally, the deign was meant to have 4 waterway spa jets (each 10 GMP) with one common pump (Jandy VS-E-Pump 2.7HP Energy Efficient Pool Pump: ePump 2.7 HP, 115v/230v, 2-Auxiliary Relay Variable-Speed Pump | Jandy), heater, and filter for both pool & spa. I want to add 4-8 more jets and PB is telling me we will need a booster pump (they are recommending even bigger Jandy VS-E-Pump 3.8. HP ePump 3.8 HP, 230v, 2-Auxiliary Relay Variable-Speed Pump | Jandy) which will directly pump these jets without going through the filter (spa is 25' away from pump).

Given that booster pump is pretty big 3.8 HP, I am confused why they are still recommending to keep 4 jets pumped through the 2.7 HP. I understand it would be necessary if that's how they plan to to bring in fresh water into the spa, but won't that mean these jets will be unnecessarily on and pumping water (wasting energy?) during the daily filtering for many hours while no one is using the spa?
In such pool + spa design, is it common/good practice to bring filtered water into the spa through the jets? or is it better to keep filtering mechanism completely separate and plumb all jets directly (I believe it would help with GPM).

We are a small family of 3 and don't expect to use Spa daily but when we do, we would like to have some quality from that experience. Based on our usage, I am wondering if this setup is an overkill. Can we have one big Jandy VS-E-Pump 3.8. pump HP working in two modes?

1) In filter mode, it just filters the pool + spa water and no jets are on. This is how it will run during daily filtering/cleaning.

2) In Spa mode, the pump powers only the spa jets directly plumbed without the filter (The water would already be clean with daily filtering and we won't need any active filtering to happen while spa is being used, right?). I believe a 3.8 HP pump should be sufficient to power up to 100 GPM 25 feet away.

Thank you so much for reading. Would love any advise/comments/answers.


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Welcome to TFP.

How far are you into the build at this point?

Pipe sizes are as important or more important then pump size to move 100 GPM of water to the spa. Distance to the spa makes no difference.

For a good spa experience you need around 15 GPM per jet. So 100 GPM can support about 6 jets.

I suggest you read Equipment Pad Best Practices - Further Reading about plumbing design.
 
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