So by wiring the Control Module to my old timer (following CircuPool's manual), that will allow me to set the on/off timing for the SWG only? Just set it to start 5 min after the pump and end 5 min before the pump and good to go?
Is a SWG switch worth it?
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Yup. Leave the pump as is and re-deputize the old timer to be back in service.
Occasionally check that the timers still jive. If the two are off by a couple seconds a day, which is really nothing in the grand scheme of things, they can drift apart over the season.
reggiehammond
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Another method is to run 24/7 at low RPM's and allow the SWCG to run less, but more often.
+1. I run 24/7 and have 2 times. Summertime and wintertime. It couldn't be easier this way and I can't reccomend it enough.
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I wander out there a few times per year and click + or - on the RJ60+. Otherwise, I don't spend a second thinking about it.
- Feb 6, 2015
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In your diagram ...
In the event of a power outage, you will need to reset the SWG timer as a mechanical timer will stop when there is a power outage. The pump control clock should keep time and should startatthe programmed time once power is restored.
It's a good idea to check both clock times at least monthly - more often if you suspect any issues.
Also, anytime you shut the pump off manually, be sure to shut the SWG timer off using the flip toggle switch inside the timer box. This just shuts the SWG off, but allows the timer clock to continue running, so the timer will keep time with the pump.
- The pump should be wired to the Line side so it gets constant power
- The SWG should be wired into the Load side so it gets switched power from the timer
- Place the ON cog so the SWG has power 15-30 minutes after the pump starts
- Place the OFF cog so the SWG doesn't have power 15-30 minutes before the pump starts
In the event of a power outage, you will need to reset the SWG timer as a mechanical timer will stop when there is a power outage. The pump control clock should keep time and should startatthe programmed time once power is restored.
It's a good idea to check both clock times at least monthly - more often if you suspect any issues.
Also, anytime you shut the pump off manually, be sure to shut the SWG timer off using the flip toggle switch inside the timer box. This just shuts the SWG off, but allows the timer clock to continue running, so the timer will keep time with the pump.
Would the RJ-60 be complete overkill for a 15K gal pool? DSP has a $20 upgrade promo (RJ-45 to RJ-60).
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- May 3, 2014
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- Pool Size
- 6000
- Surface
- Fiberglass
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
- May 3, 2014
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- 6000
- Surface
- Fiberglass
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
How do you plan to disconnect power to the swcg when the pump is off?
EDIT. I see you have a timer. You should have what you need.
EDIT. I see you have a timer. You should have what you need.
Yep, I have an old clock timer from when I first moved into the house (when there was a single speed pump). I added a VS Pentair; pump is powered off the time clock. Plan is to wire the SWG to the time clock using the instructions @proavia shared.
As it stands, my plan is to:
- Order the RJ-45 from DSP
- Design & re-plumb my return manifold area (I think it'll be easiest for me to do a vertical install given the existing setup and the space I have)
- Wire up the Control Module to the old clock timer (pump to Line side, SWG to Load side)
- Set clock timer (15-30 before/after for SWG)
All of this install will be done after I've drained and refilled the pool (my Calcium Hardness is back up to about 750-800) and the chemistry is back in balance (including salt added & dissolved). Should be a fun learning experience!
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Chances are that while you are draining and refilling, you can get the SWG installed and the return manifold replumbed.
I tend to use 30-60 minutes after/before as it's easier to set on the mechanical Intermatic timer I have.
Once the SWG is dialed in, you will wonder why you didn't install a SWG sooner.
I tend to use 30-60 minutes after/before as it's easier to set on the mechanical Intermatic timer I have.
Once the SWG is dialed in, you will wonder why you didn't install a SWG sooner.
It is amazing how positive the vibe is here around SWG. Anywhere else, especially pool companies, seem to try to drive you away from it! Even my dad was against it, haha. He hated his SWG when he had one, said it was too much work and the cells kept going bad. But when he mentioned taking his pool water to Leslie's for a chem test, I knew right there that one issue was (likely) that he wasn't checking chemicals regularly enough. He needs to become a TFP'er!!
This community is great. Has been so helpful to me in the past 5-6 years. And response times are so good. Thank you all!
After 7+ years with a Hayward T15, I ran comparative analyses ($/pound chlorine lifetime; and daily generation as a function of pump time and SWG percentage) this time last year for my pool and chose a Circupool T9 equivalent. Over the last year I have found It has no problem providing the required chlorine (I ran it 55 to 65% in the summer) and I am not running my single speed pump any longer than I did with the T15. So my experience suggests that T9 type generating capacity should be adequate for your pool. It is certainly adequate for mine. Prices today may yield a different decision.
Ugg!! I have my new VS pump/SWG sitting on my counter waiting for parts!
I was sure I was just going to let the SWG flow control-well, control- and have pump/SWG wired together!
I was just about to rip the timer out of the wall and replace with a junction box to feed the pump and SWG and just found this! Welp! At least the timer still works!
And as I’m typing this, I just remembered I still have two panels at the pool! I ran a separate one for a now defunct heat pump, which will be perfect for the pump!
I will actually save $$ on not needing a new junction box!
I was sure I was just going to let the SWG flow control-well, control- and have pump/SWG wired together!
I was just about to rip the timer out of the wall and replace with a junction box to feed the pump and SWG and just found this! Welp! At least the timer still works!
And as I’m typing this, I just remembered I still have two panels at the pool! I ran a separate one for a now defunct heat pump, which will be perfect for the pump!
I will actually save $$ on not needing a new junction box!
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I have a variable speed pump, so I have my salt system controlled by the old Intermec timer in the power box. With rooftop solar their was really no other way to control output. I give it 1/2 hour "inside" the varible speed pump assignment. And during close up time, I simply take the metal "trigger" off the dial.