IntelliCenter SPA scheduling Question

[nsbenz]

I have an IntelliCenter i10PS system setup at a rental house and we are looking to make a schedule to run the SPA pump without the heater and when someone wants to use the SPA with the heater they push the SPA button on the SpaCommand remote. The issues we have been having is that if the schedule is setup with the SPA to run the pump with heater off and the schedule is running it does not seem to allow the SPA to be heated using the SpaCommand. If we set the schedule with the heater on Don't Change the heater seems to keep running and burning the fuel. I read in a previous post the below by SA Pentair which would do what I would like. The problem is I am not sure how to setup the "Spa Circulation" circuit from the web interface. Does anyone know how to do this?

"Another way to do this (I think) would be to make the main spa circuit your circuit that the family turns on and off for heating and which has an egg timer on it. You then have another circuit called Spa Circulation (or some such) which runs the pump only (I.e. same pump but no heating) for 12 hours a day or whatever grabs you.

Only downside that I can see is that the spa will appear as off in the pool / spa menu except when heating. You will then have a circuit appearing in features which shows as on for your 8, 12 or 18 hours of circulation."

 

[Mdragger88]

Welcome to tfp
Sorry you haven’t gotten any replies yet- let’s see if @Jimrahbe can help with your situation.

 

[Ahultin]

With an i10ps, I assume you have 1 circulation pump and a spillover spa. If so, then while in spa mode you are not circulating the pool water. Are you truly trying to run spa mode without the heater, or are you wanting to setup a spillover feature so that the spa circulates new water in regularly?

 

[bradgray]

As above, I'm not entirely sure why you are trying to formally run the spa mode without the heater.

Generally you will schedule a spillover for the spa if you're concerned about circulation. Or less ideal, use a makeup line.

Spa mode, by design, is supposed to cut the pool out of the loop for the express purpose of heating that smaller volume of water to high temps. If you don't want to heat it, you don't need it in spa mode.

 

[ajw22]

The OP runs a rental AirBNB. He wants to schedule the spa to be available but not heated at a certain time of day without the heat on. Then have a single button on the SPA Command remote that let's the renter turn on the heater if the renters want to use the spa.

I would think the owner does not want to expose other pool and spa controls to the guests.

None of the automation systems were designed for the rental market being able to differentiate between owner and renter controls and permissions. Any of the manufacturers who get a good design to market for pool automation for the AirBNB rentals will sell a lot of them.

 

[bradgray]

The OP runs a rental AirBNB. He wants to schedule the spa to be available but not heated at a certain time of day without the heat on. Then have a single button on the SPA Command remote that let's the renter turn on the heater if the renters want to use the spa.

I would think the owner does not want to expose other pool and spa controls to the guests.

None of the automation systems were designed for the rental market being able to differentiate between owner and renter controls and permissions. Any of the manufacturers who get a good design to market for pool automation for the AirBNB rentals will sell a lot of them.

I am deeply familiar with the challenge of balance in providing guests with usable amenities versus too great of access.

I'm not sure how this applies here though.

I do not understand why the spa mode on a shared system would need to run without heat. The spa should already match the temp of the pool, and receive sufficient circulation with well-timed spillover or makeup lines. What is the purpose of isolating the spa if not to heat it?

 

[ajw22]

I do not understand why the spa mode on a shared system would need to run without heat. The spa should already match the temp of the pool, and receive sufficient circulation with well-timed spillover or makeup lines. What is the purpose of isolating the spa if not to heat it?

I will leave it to the OP should he return to explain his thinking.

I have seen families use the spa without heat as a kiddie pool.

 

[bradgray]

I will leave it to the OP should he return to explain his thinking.

I have seen families use the spa without heat as a kiddie pool.

Yes. But... how is this delineation different than that it's status prior to spa mode? The spa was already a warm, filtered kiddie pool in Pool Mode.

Spa mode only needs to be on if the guest needs to raise that temp independently. There is no reason to direct all flow to this section otherwise.

The only scenario this request makes sense, is if the OPs pool is freezing cold and not available for guests, but they want to provide two versions of their spa section: kiddie spa or adult spa. Warm vs hot.

Definitely need OP to clarify this for us.