Incorrect installation of SWG?

Candurin

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Jun 30, 2017
296
South Jersey
Pool Size
13000
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Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
@Jimrahbe thank you for your comment. I checked the circuit breakers on my panel and took a photo of it and attached here (no circuit breaker for SWG??) Should the builder have added it? Is any other thing missing?
By the way, I found this valve left on top of the controller. Do you know what it is?
Just a heads up. The SWCG circuit breaker is the 12 amp gray one (low voltage) to the right of the touch screen.

Also, it seems odd the surge protector on your panel is the last one. Usually surge protected panels have the protection at the very first breaker slot.
 

Jimrahbe

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Just a heads up. The SWCG circuit breaker is the 12 amp gray one (low voltage) to the right of the touch screen.

C,

You can shut off a regular circuit breaker.. I don't believe you can manually shut off the little grey ones...

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

Candurin

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Jun 30, 2017
296
South Jersey
Pool Size
13000
Surface
Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
C,

You can shut off a regular circuit breaker.. I don't believe you can manually shut off the little grey ones...

Thanks,

Jim R.
You can’t. At least no way that I can think of (I tried multiple methods!). But it is labeled as the Intellichlor circuit.
 

Jimrahbe

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C,

I am sure it works great for over current protection.. It just does not allow you to use it to shut off the power to the cell.. That is why I have a normal circuit breaker powering the SWCG's transformer.. through the pump/filter relay of course... :mrgreen:

Jim R.
 

Plettschner

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Jun 4, 2019
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Connecticut
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Vinyl
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
It is explained in post #12 & #14
I think my question was simpler than that: If a spa return is not needed, how does the water return to the spa? Again, just trying to understand how the spa/pool plumbing magic happens.
 

Jimrahbe

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If a spa return is not needed, how does the water return to the spa?

P,

I think it is just a matter of semantics... When in the Spa mode water has to be sucked out of the Spa by the pump and then sent through the filter and and heater and then back to the Spa...

It is a closed loop. People may call these inputs and outputs different names, but they all do the same thing.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

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ajw22

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Jul 21, 2013
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Pool Size
35000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
I think my question was simpler than that: If a spa return is not needed, how does the water return to the spa? Again, just trying to understand how the spa/pool plumbing magic happens.

There are two spa returns in the OPs system. He does not need the one on the pool return side to flow water into the spa when in POOL mode.
 
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Plettschner

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Ah. I missed that there was another return line to the spa. I see the one discussed is on the side with the pool returns and understand the need to regulate/turn it off, I just didn't see there was another return line to the spa. Is that the one described as "spa jets" that is the spa's return then?
 

tfp_fan

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Oct 27, 2020
84
Houston, Texas
Just a heads up. The SWCG circuit breaker is the 12 amp gray one (low voltage) to the right of the touch screen.

Also, it seems odd the surge protector on your panel is the last one. Usually surge protected panels have the protection at the very first breaker slot.
@Candurin Thank you for your comment. Do you mean the installation of the surge protector is not correct in my panel? Is it an issue that I should talk to the builder?
 

panic_button

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Jun 23, 2019
331
Emerald Coast Florida
Pool Size
21000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Also, it seems odd the surge protector on your panel is the last one. Usually surge protected panels have the protection at the very first breaker slot.
Pentair load center feed from the bottom. Our electrician said the surge should be in the 1st spot ie bottom.
 
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BowserB

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Jul 29, 2018
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Katy, Texas
Minor aside. Since it will be a month before you have salt and your SWCG will start making chlorine, are you chlorinating the pool now? In the unlikely event you can find tabs, you could make use of the tablet feeder. Ordinarily that might not be the best idea, but since you'll need fairly high CYA later, the tabs will provide both chlorine and CYA. Alternatively, you could track down some liquid chlorine (preferably pool chlorine which is almost always higher % and without additives.) In the Houston area algae can appear in just a few days in untreated water. My neighbor two doors down had algae within two weeks. While you're wondering about some of this stuff, you might want to get the TF100 test kit with the 1766 salt test and an agitator. Test strips are garbage. Pool stores are often off (OK, mostly off.) If you don't manage your pool chemistry, you'll be forever posting questions here.
 
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tfp_fan

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Oct 27, 2020
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Houston, Texas
@ajw22, @Jimrahbe, @mknauss, @proavia, @PoolGate, thank you all for your comments on the piping in my equipment pad. Finally, I could convince both the builder and plumber to fix the plumbing for the SWG (the plumber had installed SWG bypass instead of heater bypass). He corrected the plumbing and installed a heater bypass. Also, I had him to install the cell vertically and add 12" of straight pipe in front of the cell inlet (please see the photos). Furthermore, he removed the chlorinator to prevent the eventual leak, as you recommended.
@ajw22, As you mentioned, I didn't need the spa return on the pool return side, although the builder had added it. Per your recommendation, I had the plumber add a diverter valve on the spa return line above the check valve (please see the photo).
@JamesW You said the check valve, which was in my hand in the photo, is the type of check valve that is used for spa blower. Obviously, the plumber hasn't installed it. I am wondering if it is required to be installed? and if there will be any issue later without the check valve?
 

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