I agree completely. If the stuff is truly that expensive, it's going to be difficult for it to catch on. I think it needs to be competitively priced with high-end plaster. At least in my area with this particular installer, it's not.
In need of replastering advice
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I agree completely. If the stuff is truly that expensive, it's going to be difficult for it to catch on. I think it needs to be competitively priced with high-end plaster. At least in my area with this particular installer, it's not.
You may want to talk to bdavis because he does AB and his quotes don't seem anywhere that high. He can provide so more context around this issues and he is extremely knowledgeable
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The manufacturer's recommended pricing is $9 PSF (about $85/perimeter foot) and they say that is comparable to what plaster are in some areas. That may be true but it is very far from the case in the southwest. I am currently plastering and coating with AquaBright for less than that to make it even remotely competitive. Unfortunately I don't see the manufacturer lowering the price of materials so that is something that isn't going to change.
You cannot compare an AquaBright finish to a plaster finish even though they are intended to do the same thing. A Ford Festiva can get you to the grocery store but a Corvette would be a whole lot nicer... Both do the same task but have very different price ranges.
The AquaBright installation is very labor intensive and tedious. I can plaster a pool and be cleaned up and on the road in 3 hours. This time of year we are doing 3 pools a day. AquaBright takes 14-18 hours to install and is not a pleasant process.
The bottom line: the materials are expensive, the consumables are expensive, the installation equipment is insanely expensive and the labor to install is expensive since it takes so long. But with that said I don't see any other finish currently available lasting as long and looking the same as the day it was installed.
You cannot compare an AquaBright finish to a plaster finish even though they are intended to do the same thing. A Ford Festiva can get you to the grocery store but a Corvette would be a whole lot nicer... Both do the same task but have very different price ranges.
The AquaBright installation is very labor intensive and tedious. I can plaster a pool and be cleaned up and on the road in 3 hours. This time of year we are doing 3 pools a day. AquaBright takes 14-18 hours to install and is not a pleasant process.
The bottom line: the materials are expensive, the consumables are expensive, the installation equipment is insanely expensive and the labor to install is expensive since it takes so long. But with that said I don't see any other finish currently available lasting as long and looking the same as the day it was installed.
Do you mean to say that about just plain plaster, or any plaster based aggregate finish? Three hours seems awfully fast.
Plain plaster. Pebble is 4-5 hours and 2-3 hours the following day for the acid wash
I've talked to BDavis. He has been super informative.
This installer told me that he would need double the labor for a plaster job, to chip out, haul off, prepare, mix, transport, apply, etc. than to do an AquaBright job. He was adamant that the AquaBright requires LESS time overall than plaster. I'm going to reach out to a couple of other installers in the region to see what they charge and then circle back to the guy in my area and see if he wants the business. Based on bdavis' numbers above, my pool is 130 LF, which comes out to $11100 or 1600 sq feet, which comes out to $14400. He quoted $16500. That's the rub on this for me.
I just need to get him to $12000
This installer told me that he would need double the labor for a plaster job, to chip out, haul off, prepare, mix, transport, apply, etc. than to do an AquaBright job. He was adamant that the AquaBright requires LESS time overall than plaster. I'm going to reach out to a couple of other installers in the region to see what they charge and then circle back to the guy in my area and see if he wants the business. Based on bdavis' numbers above, my pool is 130 LF, which comes out to $11100 or 1600 sq feet, which comes out to $14400. He quoted $16500. That's the rub on this for me.
I just need to get him to $12000
I need to get to 12,000. I did a pool the same size as yours today for half of that.
AquaBright alone took 16 hours
AquaBright alone took 16 hours
- Nov 29, 2015
- 639
- Pool Size
- 22000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Jandy Aquapure 1400
Here is the scale I am dealing with. To me, it looks different than what Silver_2000 has. It's definitely on top of the plaster when I feel it.
