How t o Clear Plaster Dust From Pool / Start Up Procedure???

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parkinsmith

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Clifton Texas, Lake Whitney
PB came and turned on my equipment today, new pool /plaster. PB insisted that in order to clear the plaster debris from brushing I must use the vacuum which has wheels every time after I brush. ( the one you attach to the skimmer) . This is opposite of everything I have read and been told. and what is on the plaster start up sheet from manufacturer. I have stonescapes pebbles with glass beads added.

I thought I needed to do the following
1. Not put anything in the pool with wheels or a robot for 2-3 weeks
2. Brush 2-3 times a day.
3. Watch my filter pressure and back wash as needed when pressure rises above my clean pressure . I have a Hayward Sand filter with Glass Media and a Variable speed pump which they set to 80% running 24/7

I am confused.
Is it best to use the vacuum after I brush ? If so is this ok for the plaster?
Wil not doing this screw up my filter or something?
Can the filter handle all the plaster dust from brushing without me vacuuming ?
Hoping for some feedback on what would be best as I need to start brushing :)
 
Your PB is a ________!

Vacuuming will just pull the dust into the filter unless you are vacuuming to a waste line.

Your filter can handle it.

You need to decide if you follow us and the startup guide or your ______PB.
 
Hi
Day 2 after filling a new pool and new stonescapes plaster, 15K /Salt. I am following the Plaster start up guide for my plaster. It tells me to get my alkalinity to 80ppm and PH to 7.2.-7.6
My fill water before adding anything had a reading of
AKL 250
PH 8.2
*PB added 2 Gal of MA yesterday at startup

Today
AK is 250
PH 8.2
Tested with my Taylor Kit and at the Pool Store
App and pool store suggested 4 gal of Muriatic Acid .
My question is over what period of time should I add this . Note, rain is expected in Central TX for the next 4 days.

Additional question and info, chlorine.
The plaster start up guide said DO NOT add Chlorine until day 3 and to add diluted chlorine . The PB when he started up the pool put Chlorine pucks in my inline chlorinator and set it to 4 and the chlorine is now 9.61, I turned the dial down to 2. Any thoughts on this and the best path forward? Plaster start up range should be 1.5-3ppm.

Would appreciate any guidence.
 
You need to decide if you will follow:

  • TFP Startup recommendations
  • Plaster manufacturer startup
  • Pool Builder instructions
You should not mix and match between them. Pick the one and follow it.

You should not make pH changes of more then 0.3-0.4 in one dose. Then test pH and TA after 30 minutes and dose again if necessary.

Manufactures startup guides limit the FC to 3 ppm or less for the first 30 days so that you do not bleach out the color from the curing plaster. I would let the FC get down around 3.

We recommend startups be done with liquid chlorine and muriatic acid rather then Trichlor tablets.
 
ajw22 said:
You need to decide if you will follow:

  • TFP Startup recommendations
  • Plaster manufacturer startup
  • Pool Builder instructions
You should not mix and match between them. Pick the one and follow it.

You should not make pH changes of more then 0.3-0.4 in one dose. Then test pH and TA after 30 minutes and dose again if necessary.

Manufactures startup guides limit the FC to 3 ppm or less for the first 30 days so that you do not bleach out the color from the curing plaster. I would let the FC get down around 3.

We recommend startups be done with liquid chlorine and muriatic acid rather then Trichlor tablets.
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Thank you for the feedback!

From day 1 I have been attempting to follow the manufacturer start up ( NPT Stonescapes) The protocols are also listed on TFP in all the links for the various startups. NPT - JewelScapes/StoneScapes/QuartzScapes

Once started up I then plan to follow the TFP water chemistry methods.

With this said, a few things have been a challenge for me these first 3 days and as I am still learning and not sure how to stay on track when my numbers don't match the target numbers on the start up sheet.

1. The PB during start up ( after I asked him not to/will not be seeing him again! ) added chlorine tabs to the in line chlorinator and put it on 4 ( protocol said wait until day 3 to add chlorine and best to use liquid). So what is the best path now ?

A. Turn off chlorinator and use liquid
B. Stay with the tabs on a lower setting to try and get the number into the suggested 3 range ? (It is now 10 )

2. The protocol suggests on day 1, 2, 3 to get the TA in a range of 80ppm and PH in a range of 7.2-7.6, My TA is high ( 270) and I am working to bring it down by adding MA.
On day 2, it called for adjusting Calcium Hardness to min 150ppm and after day 4 it calls for adjusting CYA to 30 -50 ppm .

What I am unsure of is if should adjust the calcium hardness and CYA if I have not yet achieved their range suggested for TA, this is not made clear anywhere in protocols. So the question is do I move through all the steps without achieving the first step of TA 80nppm ? Any thoughts?
 
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parkinsmith said:
1. The PB during start up ( after I asked him not to/will not be seeing him again! ) added chlorine tabs to the in line chlorinator and put it on 4 ( protocol said wait until day 3 to add chlorine and best to use liquid). So what is the best path now ?

A. Turn off chlorinator and use liquid
B. Stay with the tabs on a lower setting to try and get the number into the suggested 3 range ? (It is now 10 )
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We are now past day 3 so lets move on.

Lower the chlorinator to get your FC around 2-4 and use up the tabs in it. Don't add tabs to the chlorinator.

parkinsmith said:
2. The protocol suggests on day 1, 2, 3 to get the TA in a range of 80ppm and PH in a range of 7.2-7.6, My TA is high ( 270) and I am working to bring it down by adding MA.
On day 2, it called for adjusting Calcium Hardness to min 150ppm and after day 4 it calls for adjusting CYA to 30 -50 ppm .

What I am unsure of is if should adjust the calcium hardness and CYA if I have not yet achieved their range suggested for TA, this is not made clear anywhere in protocols. So the question is do I move through all the steps without achieving the first step of TA 80nppm ? Any thoughts?
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TA, CH, and CYA can all be adjusted independently. They each take different methods and different amounts of time to get within the target ranges.
 
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