Hello. I finally got my pool empty and today is the day. It’s supposed to hit the 90s and it just hit me whether that high of a temp could cause issues with install?? I will be filling with hose, at least the first half. 70s tonight but same next 2 days, mid 90s, 70s at night…
Hoping for a quick answer- TOO hot to install new liner?
- Thread starter 5bucks
- Start date
- May 3, 2014
- 62,692
- Pool Size
- 6000
- Surface
- Fiberglass
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
You want to spread the liner and let it sit in the sun for a while before you install it. The sun will soften the vinyl which makes it easier to install and it will stretch more evenly as it fills. You will overheat before the liner does so be sure to hydrate yourself during the installation.
Then…wish me luck! I was just reading through my old posts from when I originally installed the first liner. Sounds like I didn’t have it then. lol. Kinda wish I wouldn’t have reminded myself
Ok, so in removing the old liner I see my gorilla pad is pretty yucky, spotted with algae. I wasn’t expecting that. The pad is solid but obviously had gotten wet Would you suggest reusing or eliminate?
It can get wet from underneath and soak up through the pad. If it’s not rotting you could reuse it.
Sweeping sand off bottom side and will remove to dry while touching up the sand. I’m thinking I can just flip it over when replacing - for visual satisfaction. lol. Started to wonder if it may be worth the risk of leaving it empty till monday. Whew it is so d—n hot! Another ask, I like the feel of the wall liner I had. Most of it is intact but if I reuse there are spots that will end up patchy (forgot to order new). Do you think it would be noticeable to the eye? 
Yep, warm days are perfect for installing - the vinyl is more pliable.
You won’t see the gorilla pad once the liner is in, but flipping it over works too!
It’s hard to say about the wall padding. Probably more noticeable to the tough than the eye, and remember, you won’t be looking at an empty pool for long!
You want to get the liner in ASAP so you don’t risk your wall collapsing, and once liner is in, you need to start filling right away.
You won’t see the gorilla pad once the liner is in, but flipping it over works too!
It’s hard to say about the wall padding. Probably more noticeable to the tough than the eye, and remember, you won’t be looking at an empty pool for long!
You want to get the liner in ASAP so you don’t risk your wall collapsing, and once liner is in, you need to start filling right away.
The fit depends on the cut and the air temp plus sun exposure.
A larger cut will work better in the cold, but might be too big in the heat.
A smaller cut will work better in the heat, but might not be big enough in the cold.
Unless the cut is very large and the temps are very hot, the liner can usually be installed without wrinkles.
A larger cut will work better in the cold, but might be too big in the heat.
A smaller cut will work better in the heat, but might not be big enough in the cold.
Unless the cut is very large and the temps are very hot, the liner can usually be installed without wrinkles.
No idea what the cut is. Didn’t think to ask. Also don’t expect the irony of a heat wave. I won’t wait. Hopefully filling by this evening. Thanks for your comments. They help
- Jun 1, 2018
- 16,019
- Pool Size
- 26000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Busy day! Just seeing your journey!
You want to stop
filling when the sun is no longer on the pool. When the sun leaves & night falls the liner can shrink and the added weight can pull on the walls. Resume in the morning. The stretchier the better when filling
Decided to wait for new wall foam. Arrives today. Pool is still standing! Whew. Gorilla pad look great after swept and dried.
Unrelated question- I found a random unused skimmer in my garage
. It is larger/deeper than the one I’ve been using all these years. The mouth size and holes will work with my cutout. I am wondering if it would make a difference in efficiency. I’m surrounded by open fields which lends to constant breeze and wind. Skimming has been a frustrating issue the last couple of seasons….
Unrelated question- I found a random unused skimmer in my garage
. It is larger/deeper than the one I’ve been using all these years. The mouth size and holes will work with my cutout. I am wondering if it would make a difference in efficiency. I’m surrounded by open fields which lends to constant breeze and wind. Skimming has been a frustrating issue the last couple of seasons….
- Jun 1, 2018
- 16,019
- Pool Size
- 26000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
If it fits, isn’t damaged & you have replacement gaskets I don’t see why not.
Generally the mouth size is what make the most difference though.
Wide mouth tends to “catch” a little more in than standard square ones.
The skimming effect is mostly influenced by proper water level & properly functioning weir door.
Of course if the basket is larger you wouldn’t need to clean it out as frequently.
I would use the one that has the easiest to replace/most available weir doors & baskets.
Generally the mouth size is what make the most difference though.
Wide mouth tends to “catch” a little more in than standard square ones.
The skimming effect is mostly influenced by proper water level & properly functioning weir door.
Of course if the basket is larger you wouldn’t need to clean it out as frequently.
I would use the one that has the easiest to replace/most available weir doors & baskets.
Decided to wait for new wall foam. Arrives today. Pool is still standing! Whew. Gorilla pad look great after swept and dried.
Unrelated question- I found a random unused skimmer in my garage
Good idea on waiting on the foam. I have found that any defect in the foam telegraphs right though the liner. That is one of the reasons I don't use it now. The main reason I did not see any real benefit and it was a PIA to install. But, if you like wall foam, then it is smart to go with a clean, smooth, new, install.
Thanks for the encouragement guys. Good advice on “most available parts”. I tend to make things more difficult. A bit windy today but not 100 degrees as the first few days of this project. 82 temp will suffice but the breeze may be my nemesis as far as wall foam and liner. I guess we’ll see!
Stake out your walls. Get some binder clips or similar clamps. Pop them on the top edge. 8 or so equally spaced around the pool, and then run a string line from each down a stake in the ground. It may just save your wall from blowing over and buckling.
Good luck. !
And I will say it again. Wall foam is a PIA, especially in the wind. Wrinkles, sand in the spray adhesive, ugh.
Good description phonedave. Heading to the hardware store for adhesive spray and may get some more stakes and line. I’d like to paint the top rails but didn’t want to keep them off any longer than necessary. That option will be yet to be determined. I’ll let you know how the foam goes!
Soooo, I have ankle depth water in the pool. Everything looks good with vac still running. At what point should I put both stabilizer and top rails on? Prior to turning the vac back on I thought I would have to do more adjusting (overlap) but at this point I think it is what it is. Please advise on top assembly. Thanks!
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Not crazy about my liner choice (after all that consideration
) but I would say so far, not a bad job for an old lady and her daughter. lol. Please tell me you’ve seen worse!