Help w balance

[wireform]

Joe
If you don't follow the TFP method it won't work. Leave the chlorinator off get the CYA up to 30 and slam per the fc/cya ratio and keep the slam going until the OCLT proves good fc with not more then .5 CC and you've met all 3 criteria. Leave all the pool store junk out of the pool from now on going forward.

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

Thank you. I thought by adding non chlorine shock thag would attack the organic matter and contaminants so that when I add the liquid chlorine, the new FC can focus on killing bacteria? I thought non chlorine shock abd chlorine shock worked together ????

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

While I slam, how long do I need to wait after adding liquid chlorine to close the autocover to protect in from sun? I know I need to let the chloramphenicol hades dissipate. FC went to zero overnight so at 5:30 am I added liquid chlorine and went to work. My wife leaves at 8, is 2.5 hours enough time? I want to close it because my cya is so low 11 the chlorine will just disappear in sun. Plus, I have a landscaper coming and don’t want organic material in tbe pool

 

[mknauss]

Close it when you wish. The CC will not slow down the SLAM process at this point.

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

So I’ve slammed for 3 days. Pool is crystal clear now. Total chlorine is 8.2. Free is 2.4. Everything else in range. So I keep going?

 

[mknauss]

Pass all three criteria shown in SLAM Process
Check your test data. Those chlorine values are not good.

 

[wireform]

So I’ve slammed for 3 days. Pool is crystal clear now. Total chlorine is 8.2. Free is 2.4. Everything else in range. So I keep going?

Is more maybe like the FC 5.8, CC 2.4 (TC 8.2) still needs plenty of slam

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

Is more maybe like the FC 5.8, CC 2.4 (TC 8.2) still needs plenty of slam

Unfortunately it’s what I said. Pool cleared up but maybe because free chlorine went from 0.3 to 2.5….but because I still have 5.8 combined chlorine that means it’s still working on killing something? In addition to SLAN w chlorine, would adding oxidizing non chlorine shock help free up some chlorine like microfloc shock?

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

Unfortunately it’s what I said. Pool cleared up but maybe because free chlorine went from 0.3 to 2.5….but because I still have 5.8 combined chlorine that means it’s still working on killing something? In addition to SLAN w chlorine, would adding oxidizing non chlorine shock help free up some chlorine like microfloc shock?

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Pool store recommended this over liquid chlorine? It’s only $6 a bag, liquid chlorine 12.5% is similar. They said this is more potent w no cya? Thoughts?

 

[Donldson]

You keep asking about non-chlorine shock. Have you already added some without telling us?

 

[mknauss]

Make a decision, follow the process here, or use the pool store. Mixing does not work.

 

[wireform]

If that's you CC as you say then go searching for nasties by the skimmer throat, behind wier door, pool ladders the hollow parts, light niches or unused plumbing into the pool such as inactive main drain or vac port just to name a few.

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

Make a decision, follow the process here, or use the pool store. Mixing does not work.

Just wondering if this granular shock would do the same thing better, since it’s straight chlorine. It had nothing to do w pool store vs you, it has to do with storage and cost

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

You keep asking about non-chlorine shock. Have you already added some without telling us?

I have a box of it because I bought it when I bought the frog system because that is ideal ti shock with when keeping chlorine and cya low. It oxidizes and is supposed to free up chlorine. Or is that wrong?

 

[mknauss]

Cal Hypo adds calcium and chlorine. Be ware any granules that reach your liner will stain it.

 

[Donldson]

I have a box of it because I bought it when I bought the frog system because that is ideal ti shock with when keeping chlorine and cya low. It oxidizes and is supposed to free up chlorine. Or is that wrong?

It is very wrong.

You did not answer my question. Are you adding it without telling us?

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

I have not during this process. I have in the past. Can you educate me why it’s wrong? I just found this site

 

[mknauss]

I just found this site

You have been a member for two years.

MPS - non chlorine shock - makes CC elevated in your pool water. Your elevated CC implies a chemical addition creating it.

 

[HermanTX]

Just wondering if this granular shock would do the same thing better, since it’s straight chlorine. It had nothing to do w pool store vs you, it has to do with storage and cost

I used pool math - with your volume of 17500 - 1 gal 12.5 LC raises FC 7.1ppm
Same pool volume - using 70% cal Hypo (68% not on PM app) - 1 lb (16 oz) raises FC 5.0ppm

So which is better to raise FC if the price is the same?

 

[Joe DeRenzo]

You have been a member for two years.

MPS - non chlorine shock - makes CC elevated in your pool water. Your elevated CC implies a chemical addition creating it.

Yeah I had started in 2020 when I was looking for a liner. What does that have to do with me remembering and logging in two years later after realizing there was a lot of chemical advice on here when I was searching the internet? I did mention on here earlier in the thread I added that forever clear clarifier. Maybe that did it?

I appreciate your response but I’m really just trying to learn not argue. I guess with your answer now I don’t understand. Does this mean my CC is artificially elevated and it doesn’t really mean anything? Again, I’m trying to learn and figure this out not be insulted and beaten up and treated like Darn