Yes, just eyeball it. Opening the pump would let any water in the pump immediately drain back into the pool..
Jim R.
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Yes, just eyeball it. Opening the pump would let any water in the pump immediately drain back into the pool..
Jim R.
- Mar 15, 2022
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I’m embarrassed by this heater I recently learned that is not the right vent it’s just a laundry dryer vent The stuff I don’t know about pools could fill ten pools View attachment 394967
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- Mar 15, 2022
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That is a great suggestion. I have work to do over the summer on this.I see you have an Intellflo with its own timer.
Even if you put the heater on a timer you really need to coordinate the heater timer with the pump timer. You will still have the Water Pressure Switch problem if the IntelliFlo and heater timer get out of synch.
I suggest you consider putting in a Pentair IntelliConnect which can control both the IntelliFlo pump and the heater and your IntelliChlor SWG and will shut off the heater before the pump shuts off and will wait a few minutes after the pump starts before allowing the heater to start.
IntelliConnect® Pool Control System
The IntelliConnect® pool control and monitoring system from Pentair lets owners monitor and control their pool's functions conveniently and easily. Learn more.www.pentair.com
- Jul 21, 2013
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Your iChlor is incorrectly installed.
The iChlor Manual says - https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...tment/ichlor/ichlor-manual-522709-english.pdf
The iChlor 15 Power Supply must be interconnected with pool pump motor power source. This
ensures the iChlor SCG and pool pump will switch on and off together.
It should be connected to your IntelliFlo using SmartSense Flow Detection (Page 18):
SmartSense Flow Detection: Connecting the iChlor SCG to an IntelliFlo pump (stand-alone mode only)
SmartSense™ Flow Detection technology allows the connection of an IntelliFlo® Variable Speed Pump via RS-485
communication, to an iChlor® SCG power center while in stand-alone mode, by simply attaching the RS-485 cable
from the pump, to the RS-485 connector located in the iChlor Power Center (see iChlor Power Center Wiring Diagram at the bottom of the next page).
SmartSense is a safety feature that will continually monitor the status of the IntelliFlo pump before generating chlorine.
Note: Flow detection is only available when the iChlor is installed alongside a PC100 Power Center (P/N 520556).
The way your iCholor is installed it is at risk to explode if the flow switch fails and powers it while the pump is off. Get this fixed ASAP.
Here is one report - Explosion near the SWG
And another - Help,, my pipe exploded !!!
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- Jul 21, 2013
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This heater does not look like it is installed properly. You already have an insufficient gas line.
Manual is at https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...stertemp/Manual-MasterTemp-472592-English.pdf
See page 29 - you have horizontal venting. The vent is not using the proper materials. The vent line is not connected using the recommended adapter.
The manual says:
The MasterTemp heater is a “Category III” appliance (which requires a four (4) inch special gas approved “Category III” vent pipe) and is a forced-draft pool and spa heater which uses positive pressure to push flue gases through the vent pipe to the outside. Flue gases under positive pressure may escape into the dwelling with any cracks or loose joints in the vent pipe, or improper vent installation. The vent pipe must be of a sealed-seam construction, such as those listed for use with “Category III Appliances”, and for operating temperatures less than 400°F (204°C). Vent pipe construction will be of UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
The pipe used does not look like 4" UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
Is this heater in a closed room and should it also have a combustion air supply vent as described on page 23?
Does this meet all clearances shown on page 22?
Does your heater have a five button or six button keypad?
Manual is at https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...stertemp/Manual-MasterTemp-472592-English.pdf
See page 29 - you have horizontal venting. The vent is not using the proper materials. The vent line is not connected using the recommended adapter.
The manual says:
The MasterTemp heater is a “Category III” appliance (which requires a four (4) inch special gas approved “Category III” vent pipe) and is a forced-draft pool and spa heater which uses positive pressure to push flue gases through the vent pipe to the outside. Flue gases under positive pressure may escape into the dwelling with any cracks or loose joints in the vent pipe, or improper vent installation. The vent pipe must be of a sealed-seam construction, such as those listed for use with “Category III Appliances”, and for operating temperatures less than 400°F (204°C). Vent pipe construction will be of UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
The pipe used does not look like 4" UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
Is this heater in a closed room and should it also have a combustion air supply vent as described on page 23?
Does this meet all clearances shown on page 22?
Does your heater have a five button or six button keypad?
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6 button.
Yes I recently was told the vent is all wrong. The clearances around the unit are fine. The room is closed with a large open vented door.
So much is wrong with this heater.
Yes I recently was told the vent is all wrong. The clearances around the unit are fine. The room is closed with a large open vented door.
So much is wrong with this heater.
- Mar 15, 2022
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- Pentair iChlor 30
The plumber who did the whole house installed the pool equipment.This heater does not look like it is installed properly. You already have an insufficient gas line.
Manual is at https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...stertemp/Manual-MasterTemp-472592-English.pdf
See page 29 - you have horizontal venting. The vent is not using the proper materials. The vent line is not connected using the recommended adapter.
The manual says:
The MasterTemp heater is a “Category III” appliance (which requires a four (4) inch special gas approved “Category III” vent pipe) and is a forced-draft pool and spa heater which uses positive pressure to push flue gases through the vent pipe to the outside. Flue gases under positive pressure may escape into the dwelling with any cracks or loose joints in the vent pipe, or improper vent installation. The vent pipe must be of a sealed-seam construction, such as those listed for use with “Category III Appliances”, and for operating temperatures less than 400°F (204°C). Vent pipe construction will be of UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
The pipe used does not look like 4" UL 1738 approved non-corrosive material, such as stainless steel.
Is this heater in a closed room and should it also have a combustion air supply vent as described on page 23?
Does this meet all clearances shown on page 22?
Does your heater have a five button or six button keypad?
He had no business doing anything around a pool.
- Mar 15, 2022
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- Pentair iChlor 30
- Mar 15, 2022
- 87
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- 9000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair iChlor 30
- Jul 21, 2013
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I suspect that the vent in the door is inadequate.
The manual (page 23) says you need two 400 sq inch openings, one at floor level and one at the ceiling..
Otherwise you should install the Direct Air Intake Duct with 3-inch PVC Pipe.
What is interesting is that you have both inadequate gas supply and inadequate air intake which likely balanced each other out and let the heater run reasonable well, just at a lower BTU output.
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Should I be turning the ichlor off along with the heater before the pump goes off fo r the night? I don't know how to turn the iChlor off. unless i flip the breaker or sent it down to 0
- Jul 21, 2013
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You will need the Pentair 350122 cable that came with your IntelliFlo pump to connect it to the iChor. Hopefully you have that somewhere or you need to get it.
Amazon.com: Pentair 350122 Communication Cable for Pool Plumbing System 50-Feet : Patio, Lawn & Garden
Amazon.com: Pentair 350122 Communication Cable for Pool Plumbing System 50-Feet : Patio, Lawn & Garden
www.amazon.com
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I wonder if i should run the pump 24/7 untill its fixed??? at a lower speed at night. ???
- Jul 21, 2013
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The iChlor does not have an OFF switch.
What other devices are on the iChlor CB?
Setting the iChlor to 0 should prevent it from generating.
You will need to be diligent in turning it back on so you don;t end up with algae getting into the water.
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Did this pool professional actually measure the gas pressures? I notice a regulator with a rather large diaphragm on the gas line, which indicates to me there is a higher pressure system upstream of that. Are you on natural gas or propane? I would verify the gas pressure at the inlet to the regulator (or have someone verify it), before I went down the path of the gas line being too small, and upsizing it. The chart that Allen posted do not indicate at what pressure those line sizes are required, but I'm guessing it is for a low pressure system.
The venting definitely needs to be corrected.
--Jeff
- Jul 21, 2013
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I am assuming propane given her profile says US Virgin Islands.