Hayward SP3400VSP with OMNI controller on top

[Kmac12]

Hello,
My Hayward SP3400VSP with the OMNI controller on top is really starting to scream. It still pumps and moves the water great, but pretty sure my neighbours are going to complain soon. I'm guessing the bearings are going.

Not sure if I can order/buy replacement bearings? If this is a repair I can do, or if I am better off just buying a new pump?

With that said, do I only need to buy a new motor? Or does everything need to be replaced including the OMNI controller? Would you have a recommendation for the new pump? I have done some reading and the Ecostar Pump I currently have is not thought of too highly.

Thank you,
Kmac12

 

[1poolman1]

Hello,
My Hayward SP3400VSP with the OMNI controller on top is really starting to scream. It still pumps and moves the water great, but pretty sure my neighbours are going to complain soon. I'm guessing the bearings are going.

Not sure if I can order/buy replacement bearings? If this is a repair I can do, or if I am better off just buying a new pump?

With that said, do I only need to buy a new motor? Or does everything need to be replaced including the OMNI controller? Would you have a recommendation for the new pump? I have done some reading and the Ecostar Pump I currently have is not thought of too highly.

Thank you,
Kmac12

Your pump failed because the seal leaked/wore out and damaged the bearings. It happens to all pumps eventually. My EcoStar is 15 years old and zero issues, regardless of the opinion of others. And it was one of the series that Hayward had issues with.

New pumps are in the $200.00-$3000.00 range now. Unless you get another Hayward it would require a re-plumb to some extent.

Do you use the WiFi for the Omni? Most have found it a "toy" after the newness wears off. If not, a Nidec Neptune NPTQ270 motor will bolt to the pump and give you control over speeds, schedules, etc. right on the pump. With a GO KIT 80V about $750.00. Not a hard install and no changes to the impeller or plumbing.

You can get a "power end" for that pump, but it won't have the Omni control. It is everything except the front housing of the pump. You remove the power, remove the six bolts holding the pump together, remove the old and install the new by reversing the process. Reprogram and you are done. Easy. About $1500.00. You may even be able to remove the control from the existing pump and install it on the new and keep the Omni control. Never tried it.

Unless you are familiar with replacing motor bearings, find a motor shop and have them do it. If you are, its quite easy if you have the tools as a VSP motor is simpler than a standard pool motor. I've done it on the tailgate of my truck. Most shops in my area now charge about $300.00 to do the job and only give a 90-day warranty on the bearings alone.

 

[Kmac12]

Thank you 1poolman1,

I do use wifi for the OMNI controller. With my kids being young teenagers, it's been great to use the app to turn on/off pump, jets, waterfall, lights when I'm not home and they are and want to use the pool, or just the convenience of turning on those features when sitting on the patio and not having to get up and walk over to the control area. Lazy I know, but effective.

I do have the tools and a bearing puller. I just wasn't sure if it was worth the effort/last. As you stated, the seal probably leaked. Would this be the o-ring housing seal? Something I need to order directly from Hayward or can find online?

Thanks again for your knowledge,
Kmac12

 

[Kmac12]

Or more likely the shaft seal that leaked?
Thanks!

 

[1poolman1]

Or more likely the shaft seal that leaked?
Thanks!

Yes, the shaft seal leaked. That's what damaged the front bearing. You will still need a GO KIT 80V. That has the shaft seal and O rings needed to reinstall the motor. If you have a motor shop do the work, they will likely require you to also purchase a new seal from them as well, it seems to be the practice of motor shops in my area.