For real, what's going on with my chlorine level?

hawkmoon7

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Nov 27, 2020
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It's been a year with my new Florida plaster pool. I have always struggled to keep the chlorine in range. CYA at 60, chlorine at 6-8ppm. SWG is a Pentair SC40 rated for 40k gallons and my pool is 17K (set to 100% output). pump runtime is 9.5 hours. It drops by about 1 ppm every day until I hit around 2-3% and then I add the calculated amount of 11.5% liquid chlorine to it to get it back to 6-8ppm, and then the cycle repeats.

It's been a year like this, the only time I didn't have a problem was Dec/Jan when I turned the heater off (we normally keep the pool temp at 90). During those two months, the chlorine naturally got to 20ppm in a weeks. I turned off the SWG and let it drift down to 6-8%, then I set it to 40% and it maintained it fine. Pool temps were around 72 those months. Other than those two months, I am constantly supplementing with chlorine. I have done 3 SLAMS, twice because the pool went to 0 ppm before I caught it, and once just to see if it helps. Each time, chlorine was held at the right elevated ppm, and then allowed to slowly drift down. It took a few weeks to get back to 6-8PPM, but once there, the cycle continued.

I have the full test kit and I promise everything is in ideal range. A neighbor who has no issues helped me verify, and so did a local pool store. Other things to note, but I don't know if it matters: I added borates to see if that would help. My CYA drifts down without draining and I've hit 30PPM a few times, and I've had to add a few pounds to get it back up (about 3 times this year), and we keep a solar cover on the pool to help retain the heat. If I run the pump 24 hours, I'll notice a 1ppm chlorine increase the next day. Lastly, I have checked the SWG for proper output in many ways. It is cleaned regularly, I get the right hydrogen bubbles, and I've done water tests directly from the return line and chlorine levels were showing a few PPM greater than the intake.

Pool has always looked crystal clear. Do I need to just keep adding shock every few days, or is there a way to end this cycle? At this point, I'd even add a second SWG if the Pentair system could handle 2, and if I had the plumbing space, but I don't.
 
Increase your pump run time when you need more FC production. At the stated run time and %, that makes 3.9 ppm FC per day. Enough sometimes, but high use times it is not enough. So increase the pump run time.
 
Increase your pump run time when you need more FC production. At the stated run time and %, that makes 3.9 ppm FC per day. Enough sometimes, but high use times it is not enough. So increase the pump run time.
Thank you. It seems like another 2 hours a day should add another 1ppm, which is close to my loss. I'll give that a go. I never really thought of it as "high use" time, but you're right, with these temps, April is probably like July for most people.
 
It's been a year with my new Florida plaster pool. I have always struggled to keep the chlorine in range. CYA at 60, chlorine at 6-8ppm. SWG is a Pentair SC40 rated for 40k gallons and my pool is 17K (set to 100% output). pump runtime is 9.5 hours. It drops by about 1 ppm every day until I hit around 2-3% and then I add the calculated amount of 11.5% liquid chlorine to it to get it back to 6-8ppm, and then the cycle repeats.

It's been a year like this, the only time I didn't have a problem was Dec/Jan when I turned the heater off (we normally keep the pool temp at 90). During those two months, the chlorine naturally got to 20ppm in a weeks. I turned off the SWG and let it drift down to 6-8%, then I set it to 40% and it maintained it fine. Pool temps were around 72 those months. Other than those two months, I am constantly supplementing with chlorine. I have done 3 SLAMS, twice because the pool went to 0 ppm before I caught it, and once just to see if it helps. Each time, chlorine was held at the right elevated ppm, and then allowed to slowly drift down. It took a few weeks to get back to 6-8PPM, but once there, the cycle continued.

I have the full test kit and I promise everything is in ideal range. A neighbor who has no issues helped me verify, and so did a local pool store. Other things to note, but I don't know if it matters: I added borates to see if that would help. My CYA drifts down without draining and I've hit 30PPM a few times, and I've had to add a few pounds to get it back up (about 3 times this year), and we keep a solar cover on the pool to help retain the heat. If I run the pump 24 hours, I'll notice a 1ppm chlorine increase the next day. Lastly, I have checked the SWG for proper output in many ways. It is cleaned regularly, I get the right hydrogen bubbles, and I've done water tests directly from the return line and chlorine levels were showing a few PPM greater than the intake.

Pool has always looked crystal clear. Do I need to just keep adding shock every few days, or is there a way to end this cycle? At this point, I'd even add a second SWG if the Pentair system could handle 2, and if I had the plumbing space, but I don't.
One thing to note is your comment on cleaning the cell regularly. If your pool is relatively new, you shouldn’t be having to clean it. So that might point to an issue. Also, cleaning the cell with acid shortens it’s life so you definately don’t want to clean it unless it’s absolutely necessary.
 
In sunny 🌞 florida a cya of 60 is just barely enough. That’s shoulder season cya - peak season should work up to around 80ppm along with bumping up run time. Follow the FC/CYA Levels. Supplement with liquid chlorine first & adjust your swg/run time until it maintains.
Do u have a vsp or 2 speed pump? If so you can run all the time at a lower rpm & then just adjust your swg percentage & save energy in the process. 100% for 12 hrs on full speed nets the same chlorine production as 50% for 24hrs on low speed although the energy used is less.
So long as you’re providing the required flow for your swg to produce.
 
In sunny 🌞 florida a cya of 60 is just barely enough. That’s shoulder season cya - peak season should work up to around 80ppm along with bumping up run time. Follow the FC/CYA Levels. Supplement with liquid chlorine first & adjust your swg/run time until it maintains.
Do u have a vsp or 2 speed pump? If so you can run all the time at a lower rpm & then just adjust your swg percentage & save energy in the process. 100% for 12 hrs on full speed nets the same chlorine production as 50% for 24hrs on low speed although the energy used is less.
So long as you’re providing the required flow for your swg to produce.
Interesting, I stayed away from 80 because of the inability to SLAM, but maybe I won't have to at 80. I do have some more CYA. I'll take it up to 70 first, and re-evaluate. Thanks for the tip.
 

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One thing to note is your comment on cleaning the cell regularly. If your pool is relatively new, you shouldn’t be having to clean it. So that might point to an issue. Also, cleaning the cell with acid shortens it’s life so you definately don’t want to clean it unless it’s absolutely necessary.
Good catch, I should have stated that I check it for build up regularly. I've only had to acid wash it twice. Given that it is always on 100%, I've been keeping an eye on it.
 
In sunny 🌞 florida a cya of 60 is just barely enough.
This applies to me as well. If I'm below 70, I definitely notice the changes in my FC. Once I confirm I am algae-free via an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test (if I feel it is warranted) I would be sure to have a rock-solid 70 CYA. You can always add another 10 ppm later if needed.
 
Interesting. There isn’t much that can cause CYA to drift down, dilution is the most common cause. You are in Florida though with lots of rain, have you done a bucket leak test?
When the pool was first built, I did because I was worried about something different. It passed fine. My pool has a roof over it, and I keep a solar cover on, so there isn't much rain or evaporation. It is extremely rare for the volume to change. My neighbors add water weekly at times, I don't. I don't even get much splash-out because there are walls around 75% of the pool! In the last year, I've maybe needed to add 2 inches combined. Salt level has been steady. Lower levels of CYA seems to correspond to when I SLAMed, so I thought it might have to do with the elevated chlorine levels, but I don't really know. No one has been able to give me an explanation as to why I've had to add it.
 
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Good catch, I should have stated that I check it for build up regularly. I've only had to acid wash it twice. Given that it is always on 100%, I've been keeping an eye on it.
What was the issue when you had to acid wash it? I’ve had mine I’m going on two years and never had to acid wash it or even clean it really. You may have a chemistry issue that’s causing both of your problems?
 
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