Filling New Pool Q's

Had a busy day yesterday between pool things and prep for landscaping.
Added a dose of MA 300ml, 4kg cal chloride. Brushed up and topped off splash out/evap. No idea how the kids are getting in and having fun at 16C!

Ran a new set of numbers yesterday afternoon and they looked good. CYA down a bit from what I thought in a bright sunlight scenario and after the top up. Might throw the last 400-500gm I have on hand at it and call it good until spring.

Pool lost some clarity yesterday with the tinkering but looking good tonight.
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Got the retic pipes all run and tested. Backfilled my trenches and swore off digging. Tried to take some cuttings from the plants that had to make way for the imminent hardscaping.IMG20230520165315.jpg

Hopefully get some survivors.
 
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In-ground blanket box is in place. Dragged a bunch of dirt in the pool getting that cut to shape and dialled in. Astro-buoy got some work to do come Saturday.
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Pool fencing in today and the latches etc finalised tomorrow after the post cement has gone off

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Deliberate decision to not go with the popular (here) glass fencing. Maintenance seems high and we figure why create a situation where you are yelling at the kids for having fun in the pool because you just spent an hour cleaning glass.
 
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why create a situation where you are yelling at the kids for having fun in the pool because you just spent an hour cleaning glass
Exactly. Ensure you have the time to yell at them because 3 of them left 14 towels on the ground. I KNOW they each took 5. Where's the mystery towel hiding ? WHY IS IT ON THE ROOF ?????????
 
Another dilemma: Should you yell at them because they went dripping wet to the bathroom, or should you yell at them because no one went dripping wet to the bathroom?

The only explanation for case two would be that no one actually went to the bathroom because towels obviously are only for scattering on the ground (or the roof), and not for actually getting dry before going to the bathroom. And we all know what it means when no one went to the bathroom all afternoon...
 
A bit disheartening to see what absolute rubbish my once fine lawn looks like atm. I guess at least the overgrown grass seems to be keeping the leaves out of the the pool :oops:

Some serious, serious maintenance needs to happen once we are out of the construction zone phase!
 

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Gotta get better at taking before pics.
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Fencing all finished off. So much sand in the pool.

3 X 30 minute runs and Astro has things in much better shape

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Just a bit of sand that fell out of his bursting pouches at the deep end step when taking out of the pool. Will let him clean up and go for a run on the walls and waterline in the morning.

Just waiting on the paver for the immediate future...

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Salt cell question with VS pump...

I can run my pump at the minimum speed it will allow - 1000rpm and there is no low flow warning. The cell does seem to get quite a lot of gas bubbles (hydrogen?) in it that take probably 20 seconds to clear from the cell after the cell shuts off production.

Is this unsafe? I thought it might be and raised the pump speed to 1300rpm.

The cell still gets gas bubbles but they are smaller and are gone within 5 seconds of the cell shutting off.
1300rpm
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5 seconds after shutoff:

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What is a safe amount of bubbles or must you run the pump fast enough that no bubbles stay in the cell and they get pushed straight out?
 
Trick is to lower speed until no flow shows on swg then up speed in baby steps until no flow disappears then add 200 to that. It's so different for everyone.
 
What is a safe amount of bubbles
If it's a million bubbles being swept away, that's fine. If the bubbles collect into a big bubble where the plates are no longer submerged, than that's an issue and you need more flow.

Do you have a wide angle shot so we can see it better ?
 
Trick is to lower speed until no flow shows on swg then up speed in baby steps until no flow disappears then add 200 to that. It's so different for everyone.

As I said running at the minimum speed does not create a low flow error.

I might create a large bubble at this speed if the cell is on a higher duty cycle/output.

Minimum speed creates larger bubbles but nothing that comes close to exposing the plates. These clear in a out 20 seconds of the cell switching off.

Not being able to post video is a pain in bum
 
If it's a million bubbles being swept away, that's fine. If the bubbles collect into a big bubble where the plates are no longer submerged, than that's an issue and you need more flow.

Do you have a wide angle shot so we can see it better ?
The bubbles you can see in the photo are the only bubbles. The plates are in the white plastic box under the bubbles.

I'll try and take a few wider shots tomorrow.
 
Our SWG down here are usually a bit different to the US ones. They regulate chlorine production by adjusting the current rather than a duty cycle to start with. This also allows us to run them over a higher salt range which is used to compensate for reduced performance at lower temperatures, and we are usually able to run them all through winter.They might not be able to deliver the max. output, which is not required in winter anyway.

They also usually are designed for the pump being controlled by the SWG to ensure that the pump is on when the SWG is on. The US models are often independent from the pump and use flow meters to make sure that water is flowing when the SWG is on.

Ours usually don't have real flow meters.They will detect emergency situation like a fried pump by the cell current not behaving as expected and then shut themselves off.

That's why all this advice here on min flow to keep the flow sensor going don't really apply for us.

I would run on a speed that keeps the cell properly flushed (our cell housings are usually clear and we see what's going on inside).

What's important to me us that my pool gets actually properly skimmed, and on very low speeds I don't get much skimming done. That's what defines my min speed rather than the SWG.

As an everyday speed, about 1800-1900 works fine for me. When I hook up my suction cleaner I sometimes go up to 2100 to speed things up.
 
Will run a day or two at 1300rpm and see what's what on the skimmer side.

Added the last of my CYA yesterday.
FC climbing steadily under clear bright skies so I have backed off the SWG again.

3 cya additions and they have all shown up on the TA test, which I have been told it shouldn't. Maybe CCL.uses a different chemistry to the US kits?
 
3 cya additions and they have all shown up on the TA test, which I have been told it shouldn't. Maybe CCL.uses a different chemistry to the US kits?

TA test is just sulphuric acid for both, Taylor and CCL.

Adding CYA should not change TA. Unless you are adding it via Trichlor or Dichlor, but that would reduce TA due to the extra acid in those. I think the TA rise is a coincidence with something else driving TA up.

By the way: I can see you PoolMath logs now on my laptop, but still not visible on my Android phone. Weird.
 

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