i'll dump some chlorine in and I have brand new reagants. i'm heading to walmart
empty salt H20 pool down clean out vs washing machine. hose vs 1.5" vs 2" hose
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13.5" to go before h20 gets to the tile line. I'm going to be gone for most of tomorrow. I should be able to get some readings in the morning but I'm planning on putting 1 4 lb bag of CYA in a sock in the skimmer, at least, tonight, to get that going. I'd like to put the salt but I know Gene said to wait to get a first reading. I'm eager to get the salt in. If it weren't for the 1st reading I'd dump the 2 bags in that I have now. if the valve that's leaking doesn't bust this will be done somex in the middle of the night. I'll have to set an alarm to get up throughout the night.
on another note, I"m again wondering if any DIY is worth it with my pool. monthly care, yes, but with the amount I'm spending on chemicals, alone, I'm looking at $150 plus chlorine cuz i'm starting this late. If the pump lasts and the hoses it saved me $150 but the initial purchase, the time, getting up in the middle of the night, lost sleep the other night, headache today, running to 3 stores, all of our time here (yours and mine)... I'll likely keep doing it as long as I have the sump pump, but we'll see. Something that seems it should've been simple has turned into another adventure. I'm just saying, for others who want to DIY.
someone told me yesterday they don't own a pool, the pool owns them. yep.
on another note, I"m again wondering if any DIY is worth it with my pool. monthly care, yes, but with the amount I'm spending on chemicals, alone, I'm looking at $150 plus chlorine cuz i'm starting this late. If the pump lasts and the hoses it saved me $150 but the initial purchase, the time, getting up in the middle of the night, lost sleep the other night, headache today, running to 3 stores, all of our time here (yours and mine)... I'll likely keep doing it as long as I have the sump pump, but we'll see. Something that seems it should've been simple has turned into another adventure. I'm just saying, for others who want to DIY.
someone told me yesterday they don't own a pool, the pool owns them. yep.
- Feb 6, 2015
- 7,843
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Once the pump is running, add one whole gallon of chlorine.
Also do the pH test and adjust the pH to about 7.5.
That "should" hold you over until you get back late tomorrow or early Saturday.
On your return, prioritize the pool.
Run a full set of tests and post them to PoolMath.
Adjust FC and pH as needed.
Add salt as I outlined above.
Do NOT adjust the CH, even if the test result is lower than recommended.
Stay on it!
The pool only owns you if YOU allow it to.
Also do the pH test and adjust the pH to about 7.5.
That "should" hold you over until you get back late tomorrow or early Saturday.
On your return, prioritize the pool.
Run a full set of tests and post them to PoolMath.
Adjust FC and pH as needed.
Add salt as I outlined above.
Do NOT adjust the CH, even if the test result is lower than recommended.
Stay on it!
The pool only owns you if YOU allow it to.
- Feb 6, 2015
- 7,843
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Do NOT add any calcium product.
Your starting CH after refill will be about 200-250 or a bit higher.
With our high evaporation rate, your CH will increase due to adding fill water.
In one year, at least your entire pool volume evaporate - but the CH is left behind.
So next year this time (April 2024) your CH will be whatever it is now, plus about 250 (at least).
This is why many have to drain their pool every 3-4 years to manage the CH (calcium hardness)
Many of us have installed water softeners and plumbed them to our autofill. This helps mitigate the CH rise issue due to our hard water. My CH has risen on 50-ish ppm in 3 years.
For you, with everything else you have going, I would only recommend a whole house water softener. It still needs attention to keep the brine tank full of watersoftener salt. A smaller RV type unit wouldn't work well for you as it needs to be manually regenerated. And you don't have time for that. But I believe we already discussed that last year or the year before.
Your starting CH after refill will be about 200-250 or a bit higher.
With our high evaporation rate, your CH will increase due to adding fill water.
In one year, at least your entire pool volume evaporate - but the CH is left behind.
So next year this time (April 2024) your CH will be whatever it is now, plus about 250 (at least).
This is why many have to drain their pool every 3-4 years to manage the CH (calcium hardness)
Many of us have installed water softeners and plumbed them to our autofill. This helps mitigate the CH rise issue due to our hard water. My CH has risen on 50-ish ppm in 3 years.
For you, with everything else you have going, I would only recommend a whole house water softener. It still needs attention to keep the brine tank full of watersoftener salt. A smaller RV type unit wouldn't work well for you as it needs to be manually regenerated. And you don't have time for that. But I believe we already discussed that last year or the year before.
ah, yes, I was thinking later what u meant about adjusting CH. I definitely know better. I'm emptying my pool after 2 years due to high CH. I'd love to get a soft water system but would have to run a new line to my auto fill. It may be worth it but will have to dig up a lot of stuff that would've been much easier when we put in the pool. It it wasn't for having that issue I'd probably jump at the soft water system. However my friend's blew and they were up wee hours of the morning trying to get their h20 off as water was gushing everywhere. everything requires maintenance but I do remember u saying not to get the RV one. U said x 3-4 yrs. I changed h20 2 years ago. maybe I didn't do my CH right. that is a hard one but I recall doing it 3 xs and then feeling confident and u said to change h20. I wonder if it's cuz I'm so close to the mtn. the pool was a hard dig and tons of caliche. thxDo NOT add any calcium product.
Your starting CH after refill will be about 200-250 or a bit higher.
With our high evaporation rate, your CH will increase due to adding fill water.
In one year, at least your entire pool volume evaporate - but the CH is left behind.
So next year this time (April 2024) your CH will be whatever it is now, plus about 250 (at least).
This is why many have to drain their pool every 3-4 years to manage the CH (calcium hardness)
Many of us have installed water softeners and plumbed them to our autofill. This helps mitigate the CH rise issue due to our hard water. My CH has risen on 50-ish ppm in 3 years.
For you, with everything else you have going, I would only recommend a whole house water softener. It still needs attention to keep the brine tank full of watersoftener salt. A smaller RV type unit wouldn't work well for you as it needs to be manually regenerated. And you don't have time for that. But I believe we already discussed that last year or the year before.
- Feb 6, 2015
- 7,843
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
It has nothing to due with your location close to the mountain or a hard dig.
It has everything to due with our hard water - and possibly you not keeping your pool properly balanced (you could be leaching calcium out of the plaster, adding to your CH).
It has everything to due with our hard water - and possibly you not keeping your pool properly balanced (you could be leaching calcium out of the plaster, adding to your CH).
oops. interesting point about the CH potentially leaching in if not balancing h20 correctly.
u suggested to get the pH to 7.5 tomorrow. why not 7.2, assuming there's an extremely high chance the TA is going to be high and I'm going to want to bring it down by bringing the pH lower frequently.
u suggested to get the pH to 7.5 tomorrow. why not 7.2, assuming there's an extremely high chance the TA is going to be high and I'm going to want to bring it down by bringing the pH lower frequently.
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anyone know where the cya/fc chart is for salt pools? I looked in several locations and can't find that actual chart with minimums, ideal #s... There is a place where we can enter numbers but I can't find the old chart anywhere.
Here is the calculator pieced together as a chart. If you ever need to SLAM, it's 40% of your CYA. For example, 70 CYA X .4 = 28 FC.
- Jun 1, 2018
- 16,050
- Pool Size
- 26000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
If you have 13” to go there’s no water in the skimmer correct? That would make putting a cya sock in the skimmer a no go.
You could dangle the sock from a weighted down stick/pole in the stream from one of the fill hoses to get that going or just wait until the pool is full and running.
You can add 5ppm liquid chlorine by pouring it slowly into the stream from the fill hose.
If you must leave while filling it would be a good idea to have a camera set up so you can check in if possible.
You could dangle the sock from a weighted down stick/pole in the stream from one of the fill hoses to get that going or just wait until the pool is full and running.
You can add 5ppm liquid chlorine by pouring it slowly into the stream from the fill hose.
If you must leave while filling it would be a good idea to have a camera set up so you can check in if possible.
pool topped off. trying to get out of the house but I wanted to get some salt in the pool. i'll worry about the app later. test salt with fresh water and it turned salmon color at 600 and very brick red at 800. i'm dumping in 4 for now and will retest tomorrow. Now that I'm doing this I think I recall using 5 in the past.
dumped chlorine and added acid. put a bit more than 1/2 the bag of cya into a sock in skimmer.
dumped chlorine and added acid. put a bit more than 1/2 the bag of cya into a sock in skimmer.
- Feb 6, 2015
- 7,843
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Make sure you brush the salt until its all dissolved.
And leave the pump running continously.
Test EVERYTHING on your return and report back here.
And leave the pump running continously.
Test EVERYTHING on your return and report back here.
well, here I go again. If I didn't buy that submersible pump I think I'd just start paying people to do most of our pool stuff. we r not good pool people. we have algae
i guess I"ll have to SLAm and figure this out. I put 3 gallons of chlorine before we left cuz it seemed like we had .5 FCs. I put over 1/2 gallon yesterday but I guess that wasn't enough since there was no CYA...
i'm seriously going to look into buying this. a neighbor told me about it how she hasn't had algae for the past 2 years and it got rid of her algae after she used to battle algae so much. I'm sure I'll be told here that it'll turn my pool purple or something. https://www.amazon.com/Remington-Solar-Chlorine-Free-Shock-Purifier/dp/B00IIXKL6O/ref=sr_1_3?hvadid=582235352613&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9029999&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=6292529335911866336&hvtargid=kwd-375965454179&hydadcr=28728_14427256&keywords=chlorine-free+sun+shock+pool+purifier&qid=1680907899&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840
While I look into it I need to decide now how high to get the CYA cuz the higher CYA the more chlorine but I guess it depends how often I have the next few days to keep dumping chlorine in the pool. Each time this happens I think we should have pucks on hand but then I think we r going to be on top of the pool or we figure out the cell was a dud, get ready to keep the FC higher and follow TFP to the T but we don't so I should've probably had a puck in the pool when we were filling it? I know we should've drained it earlier and ideally we'll do better prevention but it's been years, so what can I say. I'm considering figuring out a different way. last year I had the kids helping, set a timer ever day... that worked for a while but then we messed up at the beginning of the season.
i guess I"ll have to SLAm and figure this out. I put 3 gallons of chlorine before we left cuz it seemed like we had .5 FCs. I put over 1/2 gallon yesterday but I guess that wasn't enough since there was no CYA...
i'm seriously going to look into buying this. a neighbor told me about it how she hasn't had algae for the past 2 years and it got rid of her algae after she used to battle algae so much. I'm sure I'll be told here that it'll turn my pool purple or something. https://www.amazon.com/Remington-Solar-Chlorine-Free-Shock-Purifier/dp/B00IIXKL6O/ref=sr_1_3?hvadid=582235352613&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9029999&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=6292529335911866336&hvtargid=kwd-375965454179&hydadcr=28728_14427256&keywords=chlorine-free+sun+shock+pool+purifier&qid=1680907899&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840
While I look into it I need to decide now how high to get the CYA cuz the higher CYA the more chlorine but I guess it depends how often I have the next few days to keep dumping chlorine in the pool. Each time this happens I think we should have pucks on hand but then I think we r going to be on top of the pool or we figure out the cell was a dud, get ready to keep the FC higher and follow TFP to the T but we don't so I should've probably had a puck in the pool when we were filling it? I know we should've drained it earlier and ideally we'll do better prevention but it's been years, so what can I say. I'm considering figuring out a different way. last year I had the kids helping, set a timer ever day... that worked for a while but then we messed up at the beginning of the season.
- May 3, 2014
- 62,726
- Pool Size
- 6000
- Surface
- Fiberglass
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Are you sure you have algae? Is it present on the walls etc? If the pool water is slightly green, that could be iron.
That device adds copper. Turns blonde hair and fingernails green. Will stain the pool surface eventually.
That device adds copper. Turns blonde hair and fingernails green. Will stain the pool surface eventually.
I just brushed the pool after adding 2.5 bags of shock and didn't see any algae visibly. It's always hard with pebble. there was 1 pebble I questioned, but no, not really,. the pool does look slightly green from a distance and it looks that way to me when it gets algae. I tested this morn and it seemed to say .5 FC which seems pretty logical considering h20 from the tap is probably around that and I added half a gallon or whatever someone told me to yesterday, so I hoped I'd be fine was temps did reach low 80s yesterday, I think.. before yesterday it was pretty chilly. with no CYA in the pool maybe it all burnt off. Where would the iron be coming from? I dumped 3 gallons of chlorine in this morning when I left just in case and came back to fc of 2. it was a sunny day so maybe it's cuz I don't have cya in the pool. also, we did not keep the pool running continuosly. I didn't get that message til later (although I know better). I guess I can't be sure if there's algae, unless I do an overnight test.