Easytouch Scheduling Question

[Toxophilite]

I'm on manual operation for the time being. When in scheduling, or possibly other functions as well, my bumble fingers seem to occasionally set an extra default spa or pool schedule. IOW, it happens from the 1/8 upper corner showing available schedules to now has 2/8. Hey, not bad as when I could fumble it up to 8/8 Anyway, not much issue till this morning when I find my spa and heater started at 8am and set to run till 5pm, mon-fri, on a second schedule. I didn't set up a new schedule, that is just the default for all new schedules. How do I prevent this from happening?

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Be careful when pressing buttons and delete schedules you accidentally create. Be warned that there is a hard limit of 24 schedules (I think it’s 24) that can be programmed directly into the ET. So if you accidentally add too many, you’ll not have enough schedules for other items you light want to program.

 

[Toxophilite]

Be careful when pressing buttons and delete schedules you accidentally create. Be warned that there is a hard limit of 24 schedules (I think it’s 24) that can be programmed directly into the ET. So if you accidentally add too many, you’ll not have enough schedules for other items you light want to program.

Thanks! Yes, I'm pretty simple with only 1 schedule needed per individual function right now. I have had to delete many unintentionally set ones. My concern is not paying attention and being gone a day or so with something like my spa burning gas all day for nothing. I was hoping there's a way to set the default for new schedules to either no time running or no days running. Right now new defaults are 8-5, 7 days, on.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Tox,

The max number of schedules/programs for an EasyTouch is 12 and that includes any egg-timers not set at the default of 12 hours.

Do you have ScreenLogic? With ScreenLogic you could schedule and program using a PC and get a screen like this to do it..

Schedules1.JPG

• Jimrahbe
• Mar 8, 2021

To be honest I don't fully understand the problems you are having.

Please tell me exactly what schedule or schedules you want to set up.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Toxophilite]

Tox,

The max number of schedules/programs for an EasyTouch is 12 and that includes any egg-timers not set at the default of 12 hours.

Do you have ScreenLogic? With ScreenLogic you could schedule and program using a PC and get a screen like this to do it..

Schedules1.JPG

• Jimrahbe
• Mar 8, 2021

To be honest I don't fully understand the problems you are having.

Please tell me exactly what schedule or schedules you want to set up.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Jim, my main problem is that I don't have ScreenLogic Yet! That dang panel is great if you keep your fingers out of it, otherwise, it challenges all that is intuitive about oneself in using a control system.

I guess my problem with it, otherwise, is that it is easy to accidentally create a new schedule for pool or spa. The default for new schedules are "all days on", timed 8-5. Two times now I have been leaving for work and hear the heater fire up and spa kick on due to my fumble the day before which bumped in a new schedule I did not set up intentionally. I can't seem to find how to change default, if possible, to all days off till turned on.

If you push the up or down arrow out of turn when the 1/x (one of x) is flashing, it dumps in the new schedule. And, I tend punch a lot of buttons out of turn.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

You can not change the default schedule parameters, they are hard coded into the system. When you press the button and it creates a new schedule, the default is alway M-Su active and 8am-5pm as the hours. That’s just how it is. The SPA feature circuit will always activate the heater unless you disable it in the HEAT menu.

 

[Toxophilite]

You can not change the default schedule parameters, they are hard coded into the system. When you press the button and it creates a new schedule, the default is alway M-Su active and 8am-5pm as the hours. That’s just how it is. The SPA feature circuit will always activate the heater unless you disable it in the HEAT menu.

Thanks! I will just have to be more attentive. I should have realized the value of the ScreenLogic.

I was sold Easytouch 4 PS control. The V valve button only seems to control between pool and spa. Does it not have capacity to operate the spillway and drain listed on the button icon? Trying to get my head around what I have and what my limitations are.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Tox,

I am sure it is just me, but what would you not want scheduled 7 days a week?

In my mind schedules are mostly for how long the pump runs each day and at what speeds. Turning on a cleaner, maybe running a spillover, etc.

It is not something that you would have to add or delete each day.

Not saying adding a schedule can't be screwed up, but once it is done right, how often does it need to be changed?

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

I have a PS-8 with an EasyTouch RF remote, no ScreenLogic. Never felt a need for it. Once I got it set up, I have rarely ever changed anything.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Tox,

The V button will only Drain or Fill when in the Service Mode as that would normally be when those functions would be used.

If you set up a Spillway function, you can turn your spillover on and off. But we would need to see some pics of your equipment pad, to tell you how to set up that option..

hanks,

Jim R.

 

[Toxophilite]

Tox,

I am sure it is just me, but what would you not want scheduled 7 days a week?

In my mind schedules are mostly for how long the pump runs each day and at what speeds. Turning on a cleaner, maybe running a spillover, etc.

It is not something that you would have to add or delete each day.

Not saying adding a schedule can't be screwed up, but once it is done right, how often does it need to be changed?

Thanks,

Jim R.

Thanks, and agree! I have all my schedules set up to normal function of the pool. My particular issue is user error. Pushing the up down arrow out of order when I'm using something out of schedule, manually. It only takes pushing the arrow up or down at the wrong placement of cursor to create a new default schedule for the week. I assume it's created once you leave that screen via the menu button back.

 

[Toxophilite]

Tox,

The V button will only Drain or Fill when in the Service Mode as that would normally be when those functions would be used.

If you set up a Spillway function, you can turn your spillover on and off. But we would need to see some pics of your equipment pad, to tell you how to set up that option..

hanks,

Jim R.

Thanks, again!!! Yes, I have a spillway function set up for manual on/off when wanted. I did not know about the need to be in Service mode for remaining functions of the V button, thanks!!

 

[Toxophilite]

I have a PS-8 with an EasyTouch RF remote, no ScreenLogic. Never felt a need for it. Once I got it set up, I have rarely ever changed anything.

I was to get an RF Remote, as the Pentair contractor was going to "make me a deal" on one set up outside my PB for a better deal. It's never materialized. I was later told here that I can possibly Ebay the screenlogic and get that set up for not too much. Just haven't dealt with all of it to date.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

I was to get an RF Remote, as the Pentair contractor was going to "make me a deal" on one set up outside my PB for a better deal. It's never materialized. I was later told here that I can possibly Ebay the screenlogic and get that set up for not too much. Just haven't dealt with all of it to date.

Many folks here prefer screenlogic to the remote because the programming is module based and it's easy to read things on PC screen. You can also have it connected to WiFi, use tablet devices to control the ET panel and even do remote web-based controls. You can program anything ScreenLogic can do on the 4 line display of the RF remote, it's just a lot more "Ancient feeling" ... like the old days of thermal printers and computer screens with command prompts. The logic underlying it is all the same. I'm too lazy to be bothered with setting up ScreenLogic and there's nothing that it can do that I already can't do, so I'll see if I own this house long enough to where I might upgrade everything to an IntelliCenter (as soon as Pentair gets all the bugs out of that thing!). That way, all of the remote control is built into the box rather than having to hang additional antenna off my outer walls and add a protocol-brick to my router.

 

[Toxophilite]

Many folks here prefer screenlogic to the remote because the programming is module based and it's easy to read things on PC screen. You can also have it connected to WiFi, use tablet devices to control the ET panel and even do remote web-based controls. You can program anything ScreenLogic can do on the 4 line display of the RF remote, it's just a lot more "Ancient feeling" ... like the old days of thermal printers and computer screens with command prompts. The logic underlying it is all the same. I'm too lazy to be bothered with setting up ScreenLogic and there's nothing that it can do that I already can't do, so I'll see if I own this house long enough to where I might upgrade everything to an IntelliCenter (as soon as Pentair gets all the bugs out of that thing!). That way, all of the remote control is built into the box rather than having to hang additional antenna off my outer walls and add a protocol-brick to my router.

Thanks! Makes good sense in how I operate myself. If I can just turn to spa, lights, features, and spillway on/off without walking to the box, that's about all the remote control I personally need. I don't regret having to learn the box by hard knocks, as that's my best teacher. This place has really helped the process along!!!!

 

[Dirk]

Guys, would this work?

As mentioned, there are 12 available schedules, which include egg timers. If you view the Egg Timers screen, you'll see several items, all set to their default of 12 hours. As long as they are at 12 hours, they don't count against your available schedules. If you alter one of the egg timers, you lose one of the available. If you alter enough egg timers to use up all the available egg timers, then you will be unable to create a new schedule. Would that solve the problem of accidentally creating schedules?

 

[Toxophilite]

Guys, would this work?

As mentioned, there are 12 available schedules, which include egg timers. If you view the Egg Timers screen, you'll see several items, all set to their default of 12 hours. As long as they are at 12 hours, they don't count against your available schedules. If you alter one of the egg timers, you lose one of the available. If you alter enough egg timers to use up all the available egg timers, then you will be unable to create a new schedule. Would that solve the problem of accidentally creating schedules?

If my spa is really the only main concern, having it run all day while gone and wasting $100 of propane, I guess I could use up all my spa schedules and set each one for none of the days of the week? Or, turn off the heat command with it and just manually heat or no heat?

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Guys, would this work?

As mentioned, there are 12 available schedules, which include egg timers. If you view the Egg Timers screen, you'll see several items, all set to their default of 12 hours. As long as they are at 12 hours, they don't count against your available schedules. If you alter one of the egg timers, you lose one of the available. If you alter enough egg timers to use up all the available egg timers, then you will be unable to create a new schedule. Would that solve the problem of accidentally creating schedules?

Occam’s Razor bro …. Occam’s Razor

How about the OP just practices being careful …

 

[Dirk]

Occam’s Razor bro …. Occam’s Razor

How about the OP just practices being careful …

With my old PSL4, which was severely hobbled compared to any other ET model, I had to get creative to squeeze out of it every bit of functionality. So that is my mindset.

Personally, I would not want to run an EasyTouch without ScreenLogic. To me, that is the ultimate solution to this particular issue (you know, if you happen to have 5 bills just layin' around). Programming ease aside, ScreenLogic just makes using and monitoring an EasyTouch so much more efficient. Dare I say "enjoyable?" It makes your computer and all your mobile devices into user-friendly(ish) remote controllers (even while away)...

So even if you did happen to set the spa off in the morning, you could turn it off while at work. More importantly, you can turn it on while leaving work, and have it nice and toasty for yourself when you get home!

 

[Toxophilite]

How about the OP just practices being careful …

Come on, man! I'm 61, two left thumbs, and wear trifocals