Looks good. But why didn't use you flex PVC? And it looks like in 3 places you have return jets right over each other? I assume one is return and one is jet?
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lborne said:
I'll take it one step farther; it looks great (and flex pipe is for people who can't plumb
). Sorry, I just have no use for flex pipe (it is just a way for the plumber to go faster, and it is a much weaker product than rigid). Great looking plumbing
That's the way it is supposed to look 
(Only thing I can't see in the picture is the Hartford Loop for the jets. You might want to check on that before gunite!).As a licenced plumber (no longer practicing full time) I'll respectfully disagree with the above and move onsimicrintz said:(and flex pipe is for people who can't plumb
bk406 said:As a licenced plumber (no longer practicing full time) I'll respectfully disagree with the above and move onsimicrintz said:(and flex pipe is for people who can't plumb
Not meaning to offend (my sincere apologies if I did
). I just think flex is "cheating".......Thanks for the kind remarks. It's good to here some reassurance. I'm a little nervous about the pressure test. I tried to pressureize it last night and discovered a leak. Stupid me, forgot to glue one of the joints. Fixed it and tried again, and then discovered another that I forgot to glue. I'll fix that tonight and try again. Keep my fingers crossed. I've heard a lot of negative things about flex so I opted for PVC. The dual lines over eachother in three locations is for a dual jet setup, upper and lower back hopefully. Unless I screwed it up, then I'll have a lower jet and a butt jet, lol. By hartford loop, do you mean just completing the loop all the way around to equalize pressure? That I did, and I also have two tees feeding the loop on opposite sides so the pressure should be as close to equalized as possible. Hope I'm not missing something else?
n8scstm said:
You can put adjustable eyeball fittings over the jet lines to help direct some water (you don't want the "butt jet" to become an "enema jet"!) around if you miss layout a little bit. They will adjust about 15 degrees, which isn't a whole lot, but it will help.
The Hartford Loop is in the air line, and it jogs the air line up (roughly to the top of gunite) to allow a "break" in the line elevation. It helps to keep the jets from flooding and not drawing in air like they are supposed to. Easy fix still at this point as you just need to cut into the air line, 90 up and over and back down (4 total 90's) again to create the loop. Don't forget to glue them all when you are done
Don't know if this is any better than what you will have, but this is what we have installed. I have the vari-flow nozzles that allow you to regulate the force from full stream to off, and adjust the angle. You can get different nozzles, such as the pulse flow - which fits in the same body and can be changed easily.
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Ive already got the jets. Waterway Plastics Poly Storm. Got one of each different type. Flooding the air line crossed my mind but I didnt know what to do about it. On the hartford loop... do you go over the top of the rebar, or just under it?
n8scstm said:
Over. The rebar is under 3" of gunite when it is finished being shot. Remember that the coping installer will float for the coping, so if you set the top of the loop right at the top of finished gunite (top of beam) you will be fine.
Is this pic correct to what you are describing? Is the intent to keep the entire run of 2" plumbing that goes to the pad clear of water? Seems to me that the entrance into the loop should be above water level, not just a part of the loop. But if this pic will work, let me know... Thanks
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That first one just doesnt make any sense to me but that's how I read it. Logic is telling me it needs to be like this one. Can someone confirm that my first pic is retarded?
And, if the second drawing below is correct, is it going to be a problem if the circled tee points down before going into the hartford loop at the arrow? I'd like to avoid having to cut the tee off if I can.
And, if the second drawing below is correct, is it going to be a problem if the circled tee points down before going into the hartford loop at the arrow? I'd like to avoid having to cut the tee off if I can.
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The first one is correct. I can't tell from the picture, but I am assuming that is the air line (although it looks awfully big 
). There is no "right" place to put the loop, so you do not have to put it where the picture has been taken. Just find a length of pipe that has no 90's or connections and cut the loop in.
Hopefully that makes sense! I wish I had a pic to post but I don't think I do. If I find one I will post it later.
). There is no "right" place to put the loop, so you do not have to put it where the picture has been taken. Just find a length of pipe that has no 90's or connections and cut the loop in.Hopefully that makes sense! I wish I had a pic to post but I don't think I do. If I find one I will post it later.
The first drawing is correct? How does that work? Seems like the run to the pad will still flood and still have trouble clearing of water? That's 2" air line stepped down to 1-1/2" for the loop.
It's an air line. There is not supposed to be any water in it, but it can flood. The end of the air line has to be above water elevation to draw air, and this is just a break in the line so that it can clear if it does flood (IIRC, you are running one pump for your circulation and jets. Let's say you flood the air line sometime so that you don't have to hear/feel the jets; this would allow you to clear it easily).
I looked for a picture that I could post but did not find one. PM me next week if you would like to talk on the phone and I will try and talk you through it. I'd rather know that you have it right before gunite than worry!
PS Typical air line is one inch (sometimes 3/4) so that is why I questioned the size!
I looked for a picture that I could post but did not find one. PM me next week if you would like to talk on the phone and I will try and talk you through it. I'd rather know that you have it right before gunite than worry!
PS Typical air line is one inch (sometimes 3/4) so that is why I questioned the size!
The next time your plumber comes back, introduce him to clear glue
I know equipment pads aren't real pretty to look at, but that guy spreads primer and glue like Charlie Brown works a pen! I always have the guys use clear glue above grade as it makes a cleaner looking installation. Maybe if you mention it to him now he can start using it in the future, and it will make his work look that much cleaner!
Good luck on the gunite! That will be a major change in appearance! 
I know equipment pads aren't real pretty to look at, but that guy spreads primer and glue like Charlie Brown works a pen! I always have the guys use clear glue above grade as it makes a cleaner looking installation. Maybe if you mention it to him now he can start using it in the future, and it will make his work look that much cleaner!
Good luck on the gunite! That will be a major change in appearance!
simicrintz said:The next time your plumber comes back, introduce him to clear glue
I know equipment pads aren't real pretty to look at, but that guy spreads primer and glue like Charlie Brown works a pen! I always have the guys use clear glue above grade as it makes a cleaner looking installation. Maybe if you mention it to him now he can start using it in the future, and it will make his work look that much cleaner!
Good luck on the gunite! That will be a major change in appearance!
LOL. Yeah I know. I'm sloppy with it too! I plan on painting it anyways so I wasn't too worried.