Dirt under stairs

mjnorman

Well-known member
Apr 19, 2016
112
Murfreesboro, TN (Middle TN)
Hi all. I have a strange thing starting to happen in my pool. I have some wedding cake type stairs I think they are called. A solid shell of pvc type material with a few breathing holes around it and no bottom. I've started to notice tons of dirt collecting on the bottom of the pool under these stairs.

The only solution at present is to completely remove the stairs when I want to vacuum. Due to the size and weight of the stairs this isn't really ideal and since I have it bolted to the deck to keep it from moving around, it's really an ordeal.

Any advice you guys can advise for how to solve something like that? Another problem with these stairs is that the vacuum (ez vac kreepy krauly type) constantly gets stuck behind the stairs. Maybe its just time for some new stairs haha.
 

heikejohn

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Oct 18, 2007
273
Cedar Hill, TN
Try sticking a water-hose with spray nozzle into the holes. That would force out the dirt.
I'm in the process of doing the same thing. But my suspicion it, there is some algae growing there as well. I will have to pull mine out and give them a good scrubbing with bleach water.
 

IL_WS

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Sep 18, 2012
90
IL, NW of Chicago
mjnorman, please keep us posted. My wife would like me to get some wedding cake stairs with a deck (I've been eyeing the temporary deck thread) for her knees and for ease of our parents.

As it relates to a cleaner getting stuck behind stairs, I have a Pool Rover Jr. robot that kept finding it's way behind and around our stairs. Once there, it moved no more for the rest of the cleaning cycle. To keep this from happening, I made a U-shaped structure out of 4" PVC so the cleaner couldn't get behind the stairs. Haven't had a problem since. See the picture at Pool Rover Junior review-aka Lil Kim
 

mjnorman

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Apr 19, 2016
112
Murfreesboro, TN (Middle TN)
Thanks for the replies all. Love the idea of the hose blasting it out.

To answer the questions:
1) @ajw22 definitely dirt not algae. Been through SLAM enough times to know when I have algae trust me lol.
FC 5, CYA 60 (upping to 80 since SWG), TA 80, ph abt 7.6

2) @IL_WS funny that you mention pvc. I just drafted up a quick sketch of how I could block that section off with pvc attached to the stairs. After really thinking about it though, I am going to go with a new set of stairs. I do like how sturdy the cake stairs are, just becoming a problem lately so after much debate I bought the Confer 6000x . Hoping with the combination of there being less gap under the rails for the hose to creep into along with the blocking support under the new stairs, this will be enough to keep the vac out, and open enough to allow water circulation. I also bought a twister attachment a while back to try to solve the vac problem, so if all this combined doesn't do it man I dont know.

Will report back middle of next week when I get everything installed! Thanks again!
 

ranger_ric

LifeTime Supporter
May 29, 2014
206
Midland TX
I installed the Confer 6000 stairs this year. Everyone (especially the older folks in the family LOVE Them.. I too have noticed it collecting dirt under the stairs. I lay awake at night thinking of adding a pvc pipe along the edge and maybe hooking it up to the return line so some of the returns blow directly under the stairs.. Haven't dreamed up the ultimate solution yet and time is really tight so I just shove a hose under there when I add water. It never gets all the dirt but it gets it moving around.
 

mjnorman

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Apr 19, 2016
112
Murfreesboro, TN (Middle TN)
Well I got the new stairs installed. However my kreepy krauly is still constantly stuck behind these new Confer stairs!

I have a way older model, I wonder if a newer model that has that blocking ring around it would help? Anyone have any ideas? Not really wanting to spend the bucks for a rover type robot at the moment, I just want a vac that I can drop in the pool and have it work without having to constantly monitor it! I feel like I'd be better off manually vacuuming at this point.
 

Blacklisted

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Sep 10, 2013
198
El Cajon CA
Give the PVC idea IL_WS posted above, I think that's a great idea. How I get dirt etc from behind my ladder is I use a flower water wand that has a removable head and put a driveway sprayer on it to shoot under/ around the stairs. It works great, and I use it to spray the seams on my intex pool that overlap and can get dirt/algae in them easily. Links for reference.