I'm sure you are right. Unfortunately, the gunite contractor told the guy coordinating my project that 22" of gunite was too thick. So my PB says he is following instructions.I don't see why it can't be done with gunite. I think they're just cheaping out on you. 2 yards of gunite is $350...
The transition to the deep end started about 3' too soon which caused the area at my seating ledge to be in water 6' deep. It should have been 4' deep. So the issue is depth and transition location.Let me understand the problem better? Is it just too deep, or is the transition too fast? I don't understand...but I do love me a deep pool.
That's far from true. Benches and seats against walls are often solid gunite. The wall is 8" and the seat is 16-18" which is over 22" total.... and that's on a vertical surface where gravity is fighting.I'm sure you are right. Unfortunately, the gunite contractor told the guy coordinating my project that 22" of gunite was too thick. So my PB says he is following instructions.
These are great points. I will ask the contractor about them tomorrow. Thank you, very much!That's far from true. Benches and seats against walls are often solid gunite. The wall is 8" and the seat is 16-18" which is over 22" total.... and that's on a vertical surface where gravity is fighting.
Sounds like the gunite guy gets paid by the job and not the yard. Around here it's by the yard and the contractors will fill the entire pool to the top if you ask them to.
Yeah, they just seemed flummoxed. I really wanted to ask the subs to come back. They knew what they were doing.sigh...............really?? Really guys??? THEN you walk away with out finishing?? I have a sad for you
Thanks, I would really love that! The problem is it appears the only thing our inspector checks is the plumbing. I'm in Alabama, in the county, not inside any city limits. It's pretty much the wild wild west... But in the south! I've questioned the PB several times and they keep telling me that this is an acceptable build and that they have warrantied the shell for life. Or at least my lifetime. I guess I can call the county and ask if there was some sort of structural inspection that they can do?If that was my pool I would stop the project. No way that would fly...
You should insist the building inspector does another pre-gunite inspection if they are allowed to continue with the bags.
Have the gunite crew shoot 12", then have them come back the next day to add rebar and another 12".
So.... Can the PB explain why they were using bags of rock, then because they can't do a easy estimate of rock quantity and are are sick of going back to the rock store (obviously taking away from face book time) all of a sudden bags of mud will work just fine on your $80,000 investment. This speaks volumes of your pool builders quality control and over all quality of work. Don't let them bully you into something you will have to live with while they are out spending your money.after the first 30 or so bags of rock they switched to bagging up the dirt/clay the excavator had pulled out the hole.
The manager over the project said gravel or sand but someone else overruled him. He said it doesn't matter what is in the bag, once they are tied off, they are considered compacted and acceptable.So.... Can the PB explain why they were using bags of rock...all of a sudden bags of mud will work just fine...
I can only imagine what that shell leak guarantee would entail. If they end up doing anything I would imagine they would send out a guy with some hydraulic cement a few times a year to put a big ugly patch in your once beautiful pool...
I really value and appreciate your feedback. We're thinking about asking for the owner or head manager and asking for a structural engineering inspection with the engineer's sign off on their change. If they balk then we will offer to pay the expense if the engineer didn't require any changes. If there were issues or changes, then we'd propose the PB eat the cost. I can't think of any other way to get them to listen.Don't fall for that lifetime guarantee garbage... what does that even mean?
Do it right the first time because you'll be on your own the second time.
This is your pool and your money. You have the control. There are about 10 posts a day on here from people with major structural issues after just a year or two....
I am not a engineer However I work frequently with them for the past 30 yrs. I have seen only seen clean stone or processed sand specified for that application. Never common fill. If a engineer did spec common fill I would find a different engineer.He said it doesn't matter what is in the bag, once they are tied off, they are considered compacted and acceptable.