Can I put my SWG before the filter?

wverboom

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Aug 1, 2024
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Spain
Pool Size
85000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Hello all,

I'm looking to convert my pool to salt water.
In my current setup there is not much space in the return 50mm tube so perhaps I can also put it in front of my filter?
If not there need to be a little more work in order to fit everything in there.

Regards, Wouter
 
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Here a photo from above and one from te side. I think it will be possible with the purple option. It's a bit of a puzzle 😀20240820_105127.jpg20240820_105145.jpg
 

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The yellow path is the same amount of elbows you have now. That's if you can get the last elbow that turns down into the ground removed with enough pipe sticking up to glue on a coupler.

If you can't, the purple path will only add two elbows.
 
Any advice for choosing the SWG equipment? What to take a look at?
If you would ever consider adding pool automation or a new variable speed pump to your pad, you'd want the automation controller, the VS pump and the SWG to be of the same brand. Pool pad equipment manufacturers all make proprietary components that only talk to each other if they are of the same brand. If you're sure you'll never have pool automation, then CircuPool gets recommended a lot on the forum.

SWGs have a rating (how much chlorine they can produce per day). They seem to be spec'd to match pool size (in gallons), like 20K, 40K, 60K, etc. But you want the SWG to be at least double the pool size. Your pool is ~22K gallons, so you'd want at least a 40K SWG, 60K would be better. The "bigger" the SWG, the less you'll have to have it running to produce the chlorine your pool will need, and the more years it'll last (the cell of an SWG system is an expendable part that only lasts so long, and then you replace it).

And I think it's CircuPool that sometimes has a sale, where you can upgrade from one size to the next for a ridiculously low price (@Newdude, do I have the right?).

 
And I think it's CircuPool that sometimes has a sale, where you can upgrade from one size to the next for a ridiculously low price (@Newdude, do I have the right?).
Yes. Their marketing is such that the cell is overpriced and the larger one is forever 'on sale' for a nominal uncharge. It's been $10 now for a long time but I'm pretty sure I remember $1 and $5. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Thanks for the answers!
As far as I know there is no iron anywhere in my pool.
Do I need to take a look at my current circulation pump before installing a SWG.

And talking about automation.... what automation would it do or what would I need it to do?
 
Thanks for the answers!
As far as I know there is no iron anywhere in my pool.
Do I need to take a look at my current circulation pump before installing a SWG.

And talking about automation.... what automation would it do or what would I need it to do?
At its core, pool automation is a fancy timer. But instead of "on and off" once or twice a day, you can get more granular, especially with a variable speed pump. And the more things you have that are controllable, and schedulable, the more automation can shine. For example, I have eight schedules, and a few "egg timers" (one-off schedules).

My pool gets circulated for eitght hours a day at 1600RPM.
My vac runs just before that, at 2200.
When the sun is ready, my controller turns on my solar heater and adjusts the pump from 1600 to 2300, then back to 1600 when the pool reaches temp.
If I want to extend heating time, I push an "egg timer" button and the solar heater will stay on until 8:00pm.
If I get some extra leaves in the fall, another "egg timer" button will ramp up the pump for two hours to 2800.

All those RPM numbers have been determined to be the very best and most efficient for each of those tasks (specific to my pool and setup).

And all those "button presses" can be done at my pool pad, or on a controller mounted on a wall inside, or on any of my computers, or on any of my smart phones or iPads! Even while I'm on the other side of the planet.

In the winter, when I change up that scheduling quite a bit, I can do that from my computer or my phone while away.

My controller can also operate my SWG scheduling and chlorine output amount (and again, from anywhere). I can also schedule and operate my pool light, as well as the shut-off valve to my auto-leveling system. In the winter, when it gets very cold, my controller will sense the air temp and run my pump so that my pipes won't freeze.

And you can run and schedule virtually anything that plugs in to low voltage or 120V or 240V as well: a yard fountain, bistro lights, garden lights, etc.

If you have a spa or water features or a gas heater or heat pump, then automation can schedule and control those functions, too. I have both solar and gas heaters, and my controller can determine on the fly which would best heat my pool at any given time, and turn each on and off, while adjusting the pump for each heater type! I only use solar, but if a cloud passes overhead, and my solar heater would no longer heat the pool efficiently, my controller will shut off the solar heater and adjust the pump back down to 1600 until the cloud passes by!

Stuff like that there. Automation does add a level of complexity, and sometimes maintenance, while at the same time adding an amount of convenience. You weigh your tolerance/necessity for each, and then do some fancy "math" (including cost) to factor in how that math "calculates" with you and your significant others in your household.

I would never want to own a pool without automation. Others love the simplicity of a one-speed pump and an Intermatic timer. A valid case can be made for either.
 
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Oh, BWT, there are some newer models of variable speed pumps that can handle some of what I described above. It's more limited and rudimentary, but be sure to look into that possibility, too, because in some pool scheduling scenarios, that is all that is needed.
 
Thanks for the extended answer! Some thing are not needed here like it never freezes and I have no problems with leaves or other rubbish. Some other things are nice to have so I will keep this all in mind when choosing a SWG system!
 
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Finally did the first part. The passtru is there and now I can order my SWG equipment and install it💪

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