Aquarite T15 failing?

[christo]

Moved from here.

similar problem. salt is fine ~3000 depending on rainfall.
my hayward aquarite with t-15 cell seems to have died.
getting low salt warning and amp reading of 0-0.3 with original cell.
replaced with compupool t-15 cell i bought a couple years ago.
it gives me hi salt warning and much higher amp readings ~6-7. and shuts off.
what is going on?
@chlorinatorpro ?

 

[ajw22]

What are you measuring your salinity with?

 

[christo]

K-1766 drop test kit.
salt has been confirmed by pool tech. who said i had too much flow.
salt is good.
or at least not as low as the 500 or 300 reading i get with the old cell.
on inspection cell looks fine - no noticable scale.

 

[ajw22]

Hi salt like that usually indicates the wrong cell type set.

Report all readings when you..

• Move the switch from auto to off and check all of the readings.
• Move the switch back to auto and recheck the readings.
• Move the switch to off for a minute and then back to auto and recheck the readings.

 

[christo]

with original swim pure plus t-15
auto: check salt lit, inspect cell lit,400,84,31.4,0.00,33p,0,AL-1,r 1.59,t-3
off: 400,84,31.4,0.00,35p,0
off one minute than auto: 400,84,31.4,0.28,33p,500
tested salt - 16 drops = 3200
installed 3 year old compupool Platinum Edition Replacement Salt Cell for Hayward T-CELL-15 | 40,000 Gallons | 5-Year Warranty for the first time - bought years ago when i thought my cell was dead.
calibrated to 3200.
auto: 3200,84,25.6,6.64,31p,2600...
off:3200,83,31.6,0.00,31p,0

at the moment the new cell is still generating.
what exactly does calibration do? set the 24 hour average?

thanks for any help you can provide.

 

[ajw22]

Your cell type is set to T-3 in the panel and you installed a T-15 cell. That is your problem. Yiu need to change the cell type to match the cell

 

[C0d3Sp4c3]

with original swim pure plus t-15
auto: check salt lit, inspect cell lit,400,84,31.4,0.00,33p,0,AL-1,r 1.59,t-3
off: 400,84,31.4,0.00,35p,0
off one minute than auto: 400,84,31.4,0.28,33p,500
tested salt - 16 drops = 3200
installed 3 year old compupool Platinum Edition Replacement Salt Cell for Hayward T-CELL-15 | 40,000 Gallons | 5-Year Warranty for the first time - bought years ago when i thought my cell was dead.
calibrated to 3200.
auto: 3200,84,25.6,6.64,31p,2600...
off:3200,83,31.6,0.00,31p,0

at the moment the new cell is still generating.
what exactly does calibration do? set the 24 hour average?

thanks for any help you can provide.

With the original T-15 cell in place, move the switch to auto and momentarily push the diagnostic button to display the cell type "t-3".
Then move the switch to Superchlorinate and back to auto 3x or until T-15 is shown on the display.
If it does matter, do the same for "AL-1":
AL-0 is AquaRite
AL-1 NatureSoft
AL-2 MineralSprings
AL-3 SmartPure
AL-4 This changes the default display from average salt to percent output.
AL-5 This is used with Jandy automation.

The calibration does nothing more but matches the average and instant salinity on the display.
Should you need more help, please do not forget to post the diagnostic readings.

 

[christo]

Your cell type is set to T-3 in the panel and you installed a T-15 cell. That is your problem. Yiu need to change the cell type to match the cell

but the original cell was t-15. are you saying that the guy who installed it set it up wrong? i didn't learned about calibrating until this year.

 

[ajw22]

All we can tell you is things are not setup correctly now.

Calibrating does not do anything for the cell operation. It just makes you happy.

 

[christo]

With the original T-15 cell in place, move the switch to auto and momentarily push the diagnostic button to display the cell type "t-3".
Then move the switch to Superchlorinate and back to auto 3x or until T-15 is shown on the display.
If it does matter, do the same for "AL-1":
AL-0 is AquaRite
AL-1 NatureSoft
AL-2 MineralSprings
AL-3 SmartPure
AL-4 This changes the default display from average salt to percent output.
AL-5 This is used with Jandy automation.

The calibration does nothing more but matches the average and instant salinity on the display.
Should you need more help, please do not forget to post the diagnostic readings.

so it should have been AL-0 for the original cell?
why do i need to re-install the original cell to set to t-15?
and the AL indicates the brand of cell? mine says AL-1 are you saming it should be AL-3?
and what would running a t-15 swimpure with the machine set to t-3 and naturesoft do the the whole system?

 

[christo]

All we can tell you is things are not setup correctly now.

Calibrating does not do anything for the cell operation. It just makes you happy.
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what would cause the setup to change to t-3 AL-1? is that the power outage reset?

 

[ajw22]

You still have the original cell? Post pics of the labels on the original cell and new cell.

 

[ajw22]

what would cause the setup to change to t-3 AL-1? is that the power outage reset?

Hayward_Aquarite_SWG - Display_Showing_Incorrect_Characters_or_Settings_Randomly_Change

 

[christo]

left the new cell in and changed to t-15. and its been chlorinating for hours. yea!
here are the cells - the new one doesn't have much in the way of markings - but from the purchase receipt it in april 2017 when i thought my original cell was dying early.
pool was converted to swg midsummer 2014.
current readings: 3600,83,25.5,7.21,29P,3700,AL-1,r 1.59,t-15

so what should my AL be?

 

[C0d3Sp4c3]

The AL-0 to AL-3 setting is used to id the product name when connected to a pool automation control.
AL-0 represents the default branding name depending on what you have (see the owner's manual). In hindsight, aquarite, swimpure, naturesoft, mineralsprings, and smartpure are the same with different branding. You can ignore the product branding if you don't have automation.
More here > How to Read and Adjust the Hayward Aqua Rite SCG Operational Values
and here > What do the numbers on my digital display mean?

 

[christo]

latest update:
i like the transparent blue housing because i can see the gas being released during generation.
but find it frustrating when there are no bubbles.
i switch it to super and the bubbles reappear.
i run my pump 24x7x365 and historically set the swg at 25P.
how do i confirm that it was actually generating for 6 hours a day? is it in one 6 hour block? which starts at the same time each day?
or does it run 15 minutes per hour? or is it random?
after not seeing bubbles in several checks - i tested the water which was looking a little cloudy - and found negligible chlorine.
so i switched the swg to super and am leaving it there.

is there a log of generating times?

 

[ajw22]

Depending on the firmware version of your SwimPure the generation cycle time is 120 minutes or 180 minutes. At a 25% setting it will generate for 30 minutes and rest for 90 minutes, or generate for 45 minutes and rest for 135 minutes, and then repeat.

 

[christo]

is the firmware the r diagnostics reading?

 

[ajw22]

is the firmware the r diagnostics reading?
View attachment 151730

Yes, r1.59 is 180 minute cycle.

 

[christo]

thanks. i guess i will start timing cycles to make sure its working.
after super is done...