Anionic pool chemicals

[Aqua Lab Rat]

I have a need for either clarifier or flocc that is anionic (for some experiments I can't talk about). I'm assuming that some of the "metal out" products are anionic but not sure if any work as clarifiers or floccs. Simply deactivating or sequestering isn't enough, I need to be able to filter out the result. Does anyone know if there is such a thing readily available?

 

[YippeeSkippy]

Lets ask @JoyfulNoise to chime in here... he'll understand better what you're asking for.

Maddie

 

[JoyfulNoise]

More information is needed about what you are trying to do or achieve. The terms “anionic” and “cationic” are very general and simply refer to the state of a molecules charge when dissolved in water. Compounds can have simple charges, positive (cationic) or negative (anionic) on them, they can be polyionic (multiple positive or negative charges) or even zwitterionic (where the postive and negative charges are spatially separated leading to a strong dipole).

 

[bdavis466]

Zwitterionic....

 

[bdavis466]

My guess is it's for a calcium reducer but being that you're from Minnesota makes me question that theory... but I question myself frequently and rarely like the answer.

Can't wait to find out what you're brewing!

 

[del]

Have you considered polyaluminum chloride? If you can provide more details, it would be easier to help.

 

[Aqua Lab Rat]

I wish I could go into detail but there are nondisclosure agreements and corporate secrets & such. It isn't for calcium. I need something that works like commonly available pool clarifiers do, but with the opposite charge. And I can't travel to an anti-matter universe to get it.

 

[JamesW]

Are you going to give us some of the profits if we give you the right chemical to use?

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Poly aluminum chloride is cationic (the Al3+ provides the positively charged ions for flocculating suspended solids). Most non-toxic anionic water soluble compounds for treatment are going to be singly charged surfactants akin to soaps. You can look into using polyanionic cellulose (PAC) sold under multiple different trade names; I believe DuPont offers free samples. Another option would be sodium lignosulfolnate as a polyanion. You could look at ion exchange resins as well. If you call DuPont or 3M, they have technical specialists that can offer advice on their products.

Good luck, try not to poison yourself or others in the process☠