Algae is winning.

Breeze3at

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Aug 7, 2019
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Middle Georgia
I’ve been a TFP member for several years but seldom post as I find my questions answered using the search feature, but my current situation has me confused.
I started a SLAM using pool store 10.5% sodium hypochlorite on my in-ground SWG vinyl pool, Aug. 12, due to persistant alge growth on the sides and bottom. The water was clear, but never what satisfies me clear and sweeping clouded it. Before starting, I got the chemistry in line with all specs. (ph 7.8, alkalinity 100, CYA 50) Except Calcium hardness, which from what I read here is not very important in vinyl. My CYA was at 50, so I broght my chlorine level above 26 (fresh Taylor DPD powder & R871 ) and maintained it at that level for 8 days. I completely brushed and/or vacuumed to filter every day. I backwashed when the pressure rose 20% above its lowest reading The water cleared more each day and I got consistant 2 ppm OCLT readings each morning before the sun hit it. I never got a CC reading above .5, usually they were 0. The only swimmer was me, brushing from inside with snorkel & mask. I brushed everything, even inside the returns with a toothbrush. On Aug. 22, my OCLT reading was 1 ppm fc/ 0 cc. I stopped brushing and let the chlorine level drop naturally. When the FC reached 14, I turned my SWG on at 15% to insure it stayed at a safe level during the full sun hrs. The water was Gin clear (it still is). I noticed sediment collecting in the indentations in the bottom right from the first day of 0 OCLT, but did not see the need to vacuum as I thought it was airborne particulate, surely not possible to be alge after the SLAM? There has been no swimmers except me since Aug. 12 and my morning chlorine tests show a steady, consistant FC loss, and has never been less than 9 ppm (yesterday).

Pump was run 24/7 during the SLAM ,rpm 8 hr. 2500 / 8 hr. 2000 / 8 hr. 1200. The SWG was off The pool is in full sun in Aug. from 11AM to 2pm, ½ sun the remaining daylight hours. Water temp. in Aug. was low 80’s.

What/why/how can this algae be so persistant? And grow at FC above 10ppm? My pool vitals are in my sig.line.

I have tried to make this as brief as possible while giving all data that could provide a good answer. I’ve had this pool 22 yrs. (new liner & SWG in 2022) and always fighting alge. The pool next door is poorly maintained (SWG), slightly cloudy and NEVER has visible alge on sides/bottom. Thank You
NOTE: OPD was NOT used during SLAM, only DPD.
 
A couple things to start:
1 - With a CYA of 50, the SLAM FC level is actually 20 per the FC/CYA Levels. That might save you some chlorine.
2 - When you noticed the FC dropping a bit each morning, are you saying that those were all additional OCLTs, or just that the FC seemed to be low compared to other mornings?

I would encourage you to post some pics of the pool from a few different angles. It might give us more clues as well.
 
A couple things to start:
1 - With a CYA of 50, the SLAM FC level is actually 20 per the FC/CYA Levels. That might save you some chlorine.
2 - When you noticed the FC dropping a bit each morning, are you saying that those were all additional OCLTs, or just that the FC seemed to be low compared to other mornings?

I would encourage you to post some pics of the pool from a few different angles. It might give us more clues as well.
1 - I erroneously thought if my CYA reading was between 50 and 60 that it would be 55, not knowing CYA is on a logarithmic (?) scale. I thought if 20 was good, 26 would be better.

2 - I measured FC after sundown each day, and just after sunup the next day. The OCLT were the 12 hour difference. Initially OCLT was greater than 3, then 2.5, then 2.0, etc. when it was less than 1, I believed SLAM had reached the goal on the OCLT table. CC had never been above .5. But I continued to monitor the morning FC (without SWG on) to know when it was time to start the SWG again, to keep level above Alge growth level.

Now the hard part, photos. They may come in an additional reply. I am NOT phone-able, but I'll try. I've logged in on my phone, found my thread, but can't att. photo. I'll keep trying, but want to post this reply before it gets lost on my c-o-m-p-u-t-e-r,, yes,, I'm that old.
 
Using too much chlorine per the cya ratio isn't bad it's just wasteful as it'll burn off quicker not being protected via the CYA. End of slam 3 criteria is of utmost importance and that's where lots fail by ending it slightly prematurely. There needs to be absolutely no algae visible dead or a live anywhere.
 
What exact Taylor test kit are you using?
Add it to your signature. And delete other references to your testing there as well.

If your CYA test falls between 50 and 60, round up to 60.
SLAM Process FC level for CYA 60 is FC 24.

The FC needs to be tested using the FAS-DPD reagents to get an accurate reading.
 
Using too much chlorine per the cya ratio isn't bad it's just wasteful as it'll burn off quicker not being protected via the CYA. End of slam 3 criteria is of utmost importance and that's where lots fail by ending it slightly prematurely. There needs to be absolutely no algae visible dead or a live anywhere.
That makes sense. I did NOT vac. the grey dustlike stuff from the indentations in the floor, thinking it was airborne particulates that sank.
 
Taylor K-2006. And using Fresh DPD powder and R-871 as posted.
Then change
"Taylor test kit and repl. chemicals"
To
"Taylor K-2006" or "Taylor K-2006C" as applicable.

Taylor makes a lot of different test kits - knowing which specific one you have is important.
 

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I logged on with phone, found my post, tried to upload photos. Got "file too large" for even 1 photo. sizing a photo will be beyond my patience and I seriously doubt my phone would survive another trip across the room. Maybe I'll ses a young neighbor soon.
 
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I logged on with phone, found my post, tried to upload photos. Got "file too large" for even 1 photo. sizing a photo will be beyond my patience and I seriously doubt my phone would survive another trip across the room. Maybe I'll ses a young neighbor soon.
I feel your pain, brother. My old brick phones when they first came out survived lots of slamming against my steering wheel as I ran my vending routes. My pantry door took a hit in the middle of it when my phone wouldn't do what it was supposed to do. I have a glass pantry door to remind me not to do that again. The amazing thing is that I have never broken a phone. I do not like that my Win11 computer thinks it knows best what to label my pics as or what file it should go into. Some pics are never to be seen again but I know they are there somewhere. Grrrr.
 
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