Adding Return Valve in the side of AG pool w/ liner for Hose. Recommendations?

mstephan

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Oct 3, 2024
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Austin, Tx
I'm a one-man show.

I want to add two valves; one way below the water line, and one mid-way from the top.
I'll have cutoffs outside of the pool, so when not cleaning, it won't suck water.
I have. My pool has, unfortunately, frequently gotten dirty from guests (Airbnb). It's very dirty now because some plastic chemicals were dumped into the pool so I needed to drain it. But now I have a mess that I need to vacuum out before all the water is gone.

I attached photos below.

Goal: I want to connect my hose for emptying the pool and connect a hose securely for easier cleaning.


Pool type:
- Above Ground.
- Liner
- Metal aluminum wall.
- 15ftx30ft.
- Brand: Unknown I got no materials with it when I bought the house. No brand markings.
- Pipes, I am using normal PVC pipes 1.5 in.

The Problems:
- The skimmer you would normally use to connect a hose is placed in a difficult position because the former owner put that part under the deck.
- Air often gets into the hose and causes the system to stop.
- By having a value lower inside the water level (I want a cap on this valve and as flush to the wall as possible, I'll have fewer problems with the air intake problem.
- Using the skimmer, I have to jump up and down from the pool pump to the skimmer, and it's a scenario of back and forth and back and forth. Insanity.
- Often when vacuuming the pool, the water level goes beneath the skimmer level before I'm done.

IDEAS:
  • I found this on Amazon: Amazon.com
    • It's a hose port adaptor, but it has no seals, no other side of the wall fastener, etc....
    • It seems to be what I need, but I don't have all the other items to make certain it is sealed against the liner, and then on the outside, I can connect my 1.5-inch-based PVC system.
QUESTIONS:
  • Is there something else I can find? Or parts I'm not thinking of?
  • Is there any better way to do this?
  • Are there any unforeseen downsides to doing this?


IMAGE 1: The stupid place they put my skimmer. hard to get to.
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IMAGE 2: You can see the condition of the pool, and why I have a horrible problem with air in the hose. It's impossible to do by myself. I want to fix it so I don't have this trouble ever again.
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IMAGE 3: You can see how I currently rednecked it up, but because the hose is so high, air is a constant problem. I rather it go directly right into the side wall.
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IMAGE 4: I would go into a side wall and I would have this cut-off right next to the entrances.
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IMAGE 5: I found this diagram on the threads and seems I need a lots of seals. So hence, where do I get these? or is there something for a hose connector that comes with them?
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I would cut a notch out of the deck so you can access the skimmer. Thats the simplest solution without cutting into your pool.
You can box it out underneath so its just a removable piece of deck board and not a hole for someone to fall into.
Otherwise you can add a vac port in the wall that will have a compliant cover.
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The fitting you posted is a return fitting and imposes an entrapment risk if used on the suction side of the pump without the proper cover but it should be able to be used with this cover screwed in instead of the eyeball.
Amazon has a plethora of them just search above ground return fitting. They come with all the gaskets.

You would want to use a tee & a valve on each suction side so you turn off the suction to the skimmer and open the port only when using the vac.
* you don’t want to leave the pool empty like that for long. You risk the liner shifting and shrinking which can buckle the walls upon refilling.
 
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