2 gal of chlorine a week?

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dannyfanny said:
i have the TF 100 isn't that good enough? although it takes me like an hour if i were to do the chl and ph and cya. and everything. going through all the steps and reading and measuring everything twice as i go. not exactly trouble free in my opinion. i don' t have an extra hour a day to do all these tests. how do i simplify this?
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I can run the fas/dpd fc/cc test and ph test in a couple minutes- the more you do it the faster it gets.
the cya test is not a daily test, maybe every couple weeks or less unless you have exchanged water or made a cya addition.
With an algae free uncovered pool in the heat/uv of the Arizona summer you will likely lose around 3-5ppm worth of fc each day and it needs to be replenished before falling below minimum for your cya or you can end up with unsanitary conditions and algae. This is true no matter what form of chlorine you choose.
Some brand’s solid forms of chlorine contain extra ingredients such as copper that may inhibit algae growth even with fc levels that are too low but those do nothing for sanitation. Clear water doesn’t automatically equal sanitary. Not to mention the side effects of too much copper, cya, or calcium. Swcgs have become a clear winner for value per ppm of fc and ease of daily chlorination.
liquid chlorine is at present the cheapest form of manual chlorination.
I suspect your noticeably heavier fc consumption is two fold- you weren’t using enough to begin with and now algae is really chewing through it.
The SLAM Process will solve the latter part but you must also be prepared to sufficiently chlorinate once the algae is eradicated.
 
dannyfanny said:
do i need to clean my cartridge filter before i start my slam?
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What kind of filter (sand, cartridge, DE)? How long since you last cleaned it (or backwashed)?

It doesn't sound like you have a really bad situation yet, so you may get by without cleaning to start. There will be dead algae to filter out when you do the SLAM, so a cartridge or DE will do better if clean first. A sand generally filters a little better if a bit dirty - but if it hasn't been deep cleaned in a long time, may plug up and possibly start to blow dirty stuff back into the pool. How to Deep Clean a Sand Filter. Sand filters take longer to clear up the stuff you will stir up when brushing during the SLAM.
For any kind, you'll have to pay attention, and possibly clean it a few times during and after the SLAM. How much completely depends on how much algae there is that has to be killed.
 
Newdude said:
The TF100 is great. It was a misunderstanding above.

You need a couple rodeos under your belt and it will be second nature quickly. I could probably get the whole suite done in 5 mins if I had to.

6 gallons at Walmart is $37 out the door for me. Yours will be close but slightly different sales tax.

There is no two ways about adding enough chlorine. There is one way. Add enough, or have algae. You need what you need no matter the method you follow.

If you use cal-hypo it jacks your calcium. If you use trichlor it jacks your CYA. Both become difficult to manage quickly with long and dry seasons by you.

It is up to you if you want to roll with an 128 ounces of prevention, or 25 lbs of cure.
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ok newdude so i think im starting to understand

my FC is 3 right now,
cya is 40
cc is .5
so my slam level needs to be 16.

how much liquid chl do i add tonight to start slamming?
so i test the fas/dpd again in morn to get my FC to 16 is that right?
and maintain 16 for how long?
when do i let it maintain between 5-7? is that right?
Mdragger88 said:
I can run the fas/dpd fc/cc test and ph test in a couple minutes- the more you do it the faster it gets.
the cya test is not a daily test, maybe every couple weeks or less unless you have exchanged water or made a cya addition.
With an algae free uncovered pool in the heat/uv of the Arizona summer you will likely lose around 3-5ppm worth of fc each day and it needs to be replenished before falling below minimum for your cya or you can end up with unsanitary conditions and algae. This is true no matter what form of chlorine you choose.
Some brand’s solid forms of chlorine contain extra ingredients such as copper that may inhibit algae growth even with fc levels that are too low but those do nothing for sanitation. Clear water doesn’t automatically equal sanitary. Not to mention the side effects of too much copper, cya, or calcium. Swcgs have become a clear winner for value per ppm of fc and ease of daily chlorination.
liquid chlorine is at present the cheapest form of manual chlorination.
I suspect your noticeably heavier fc consumption is two fold- you weren’t using enough to begin with and now algae is really chewing through it.
The SLAM Process will solve the latter part but you must also be prepared to sufficiently chlorinate once the algae is eradicated.
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ok so i did 2 gal last night. my FC is 13 right now, CC is .5. CYA is 40. slam target is 16. so is 13 not enough then? needs to be 16 or else? how long do i maintain 16 during slam?
 
If you use the PoolMath app on your phone, it will tell you how much is needed from your current level to get to your the SLAM level.
You should test and add more to get back to the level very frequently - every two hours to start. If you can't, life happens - but the process will take longer. As it progresses, you'll find it holding on its own more and more, so you can ease off on the time between tests. See the article about the 3 criteria you need to pass to consider the process done. It may take a few days (uninhabitable swamps taking weeks!) - yours sounds to be on the pretty short side. It will be safe to swim at the high CL SLAM level - nobody will notice anything different.
 
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sande005 said:
If you use the PoolMath app on your phone, it will tell you how much is needed from your current level to get to your the SLAM level.
You should test and add more to get back to the level very frequently - every two hours to start. If you can't, life happens - but the process will take longer. As it progresses, you'll find it holding on its own more and more, so you can ease off on the time between tests. See the article about the 3 criteria you need to pass to consider the process done. It may take a few days (uninhabitable swamps taking weeks!) - yours sounds to be on the pretty short side. It will be safe to swim at the high CL SLAM level - nobody will notice anything different.
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ok I'm finally starting to understand @Newdude and @mknauss . I've read the slam process like 10 times lol
Im feeling really empowered now! after 7 years of winging it with my pool I now understand how fast my pool consumes chlorine . This is big for me!
and im getting it done in 5 min now. :)

using the dpd test,
last night FC was 3
cya was 40
cc is .5
so my slam level needs to be 16.
i added 2 gal last night

this morning at 8 am FC was 13. added 2 more gal
11 am FC was 14.5. added 2 more gal
5pm FC was 17. added nothing
930 pm tonight FC is 14.5 again.

i just powerwashed my 4 cartridge filters tonight. They were nasty and smelled like farts! ( one of the bands broke on one of them. is that a big deal or no worries?)

so now that ive cleaned those that should help a lot.
So Even though its not 16, i think i'll do the overnight test tonight. and so if its at least 13.5 then does that mean im done slamming? What do you think?
 
dannyfanny said:
ok I'm finally starting to understand @Newdude and @mknauss . I've read the slam process like 10 times lol
Im feeling really empowered now! after 7 years of winging it with my pool I now understand how fast my pool consumes chlorine . This is big for me!
and im getting it done in 5 min now. :)

using the dpd test,
last night FC was 3
cya was 40
cc is .5
so my slam level needs to be 16.
i added 2 gal last night

this morning at 8 am FC was 13. added 2 more gal
11 am FC was 14.5. added 2 more gal
5pm FC was 17. added nothing
930 pm tonight FC is 14.5 again.

i just powerwashed my 4 cartridge filters tonight. They were nasty and smelled like farts! ( one of the bands broke on one of them. is that a big deal or no worries?)

so now that ive cleaned those that should help a lot.
So Even though its not 16, i think i'll do the overnight test tonight. and so if its at least 13.5 then does that mean im done slamming? What do you think?
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Don't powerwash your cartridges. There is a good writeup in pool school about the different ways to go about it.
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dannyfanny said:
ok I'm finally starting to understand @Newdude and @mknauss . I've read the slam process like 10 times lol
Im feeling really empowered now! after 7 years of winging it with my pool I now understand how fast my pool consumes chlorine . This is big for me!
and im getting it done in 5 min now. :)

using the dpd test,
last night FC was 3
cya was 40
cc is .5
so my slam level needs to be 16.
i added 2 gal last night

this morning at 8 am FC was 13. added 2 more gal
11 am FC was 14.5. added 2 more gal
5pm FC was 17. added nothing
930 pm tonight FC is 14.5 again.

i just powerwashed my 4 cartridge filters tonight. They were nasty and smelled like farts! ( one of the bands broke on one of them. is that a big deal or no worries?)

so now that ive cleaned those that should help a lot.
So Even though its not 16, i think i'll do the overnight test tonight. and so if its at least 13.5 then does that mean im done slamming? What do you think?
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Something is not making sense.
How many gallons are you guessing your pool is? (before you only said it was 25 to 30,000, which is a pretty broad range)
How strong is your liquid? Some brands are 10%, some 12.5%

The amounts added are not tracking with what the math says should be added to get to SLAM, and it seems the CL levels are swinging wildly.
At 8 am, adding 2 gal should have brought the Cl to 23 (!). Almost all of that disappeared by 11 am. Same big jump up and drop with the 11 am add and checking again at 5.
Yet the night before, after the add it should have been at 13 - and it then held there all night - no drop at all. And the 5-9:30 period had a much smaller drop.

The numbers used for the pool size or CL strength may be wrong. Your liquid may be defective (too old, etc). Or there is a typo for how much you added, when.

In any event, you are getting drops in the levels, maybe huge, maybe smaller, but still drops - so unlikely it will have held overnight.
 
dannyfanny said:
Im feeling really empowered now! after 7 years of winging it with my pool I now understand how fast my pool consumes chlorine . This is big for me!
and im getting it done in 5 min now. :)
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dannyfanny said:
So Even though its not 16, i think i'll do the overnight test tonight.
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The OCLT can be done at any FC above minimum for your CYA. Slam level is still preferred because of the current slam though.
dannyfanny said:
does that mean im done slamming? What do you think?
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Have stoopid clear water with no algae traces whatsoever.

Pass an OCLT

CC's 0.5 or less.
 

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