16 July 2024 Finishing Up my OB Pool

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29 May 2024 Update: Light at the end of the tunnel

Folks,

We now have the temporary barrier fence installed except a few places where it needs a fancy UV light resistant zip tie. I'll do that today or in the morning. Also got Electrical and barrier fence inspection should happen sometime tomorrow. If that goes well and weather holds out we'll be putting the plaster on Friday. If not, next week we should finish the long, long journey to finally get water in the pool. After that we'll finish the pavers, outdoor kitchen, and enclosure. Then I'll post some lessons learned and cost and schedule experience that I hope will be useful to future OB pool builders. So we'll have a little more on this thread but I hope it will end way before 100 pages.

Chris
Pool alarm electrical and barrier required for inspection to have on site:
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Robin's Step
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Barrier Fence all around
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Are you going to put any tile markers on that step so no one hurts themselves geting in/out?

BTW - you're up to $4 now :poke:
 
I always find it amazing the difference from one part of the country to another with regulations and rules. My pool plans I printed out a GIS map of my property and sketched my pool location in my backyard. Final inspection consisted of me chatting with the inspector for 10 minutes about how nice my pool looked and how he liked seeing all the different pools in the area. I'm sure for a temporary fence I could have put up a few rebar steaks around the pool and wrapped a few turns of string around it. Or just said my real fence is going to be installed in a few weeks.... I feel bad you had to spend all that money on a temporary fence where temporary barrier would have probably provided just as much protection for a month or so like one of those orange safety construction fences. Probably be much safer than most of the water in Florida this is not surrounded by safety fences and full of alligators.

Your pool is looking amazing I can't wait to see the final product.
 

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I always find it amazing the difference from one part of the country to another with regulations and rules. My pool plans I printed out a GIS map of my property and sketched my pool location in my backyard. Final inspection consisted of me chatting with the inspector for 10 minutes about how nice my pool looked and how he liked seeing all the different pools in the area. I'm sure for a temporary fence I could have put up a few rebar steaks around the pool and wrapped a few turns of string around it. Or just said my real fence is going to be installed in a few weeks.... I feel bad you had to spend all that money on a temporary fence where temporary barrier would have probably provided just as much protection for a month or so like one of those orange safety construction fences. Probably be much safer than most of the water in Florida this is not surrounded by safety fences and full of alligators.

Your pool is looking amazing I can't wait to see the final product.
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Yes, it seems ridiculous when I look at the lake right behind the house. It's about 15 Acres and has completely unobstructed access from the back of quite a few homes. We also often take one or two alligators out every year. That said it is further from the houses so it's probably less likely to have a serious incident with a kid. At the end of the day I guess I reconcile it with I just don't want my pool to hurt anybody's kids. It looks like my enclosure will be ready about 6 weeks after I put water in the pool so like others have said here I will roll the sections up and see if I can sell them locally to somebody else that needs them. I'm also quite certain the inspection department catches a lot of flack over this. It's really misplaced. They just are required to enforce rules that are passed. For the most the building department and the inspection group have been very helpful to me and help me get a much better house built a couple years ago as well as a better pool.

Chris
 
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30 May 2024 Big Day Today - Bigger Day Tomorrow! Plaster Time!!

Passed another big hurdle today... electric and barrier inspection passed. Plaster crew was on call and thrilled to get the OK. Tomorrow is gonna be busy, probably a crew of 10 to get this done in pretty hot but decent weather for S Florida. High of 90 and partly cloudy. My to-do list is growing:
  • I will be providing lunch and additional ice... they never bring enough.
  • If all goes well we'll be adding water early evening. Well is ready to go.
  • I'd better get a couple jugs of acid.
  • Refill my old chlorine jugs.
  • My old TF 100 with new reagents is sitting in the cabana bath ready to go!
  • Need to print up and review the new plaster start up recommendations for well water and posts from @JoyfulNoise @onBalance and others.
  • I'll start with the pump in manual and transition to RPi over the weekend... probably gonna need that help from @Katodude!
Can you tell I'm a little pumped?

Chris
 
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Do you have empty soda bottles and rags for the hose ends? When the hoses go in, the water needs to diffuse on exit so as to not mar the soft plaster. No metal hose end should touch the plaster. Wrap empty capped soda bottles to the hose so they float.
 
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You're filing from well water? I always thought it was best to fill a new plaster pool quickly and that's why I did pool trucks. I have an 11,000 gallon pool and it would have taken me day and a half to fill my pool via my autofill. The other benefit was I knew exactly how much water they put into the pool. I would expect this service would be cheaper in Florida given the higher quantity of pools versus the Northeast. I think it only cost me $500 3 years ago.

Also on startup I made sure I followed what the manufacturer told me to do and document for a warranty coverage. Maybe not an issue for you but some of those instructions differed from what TFP laid out. For example they wanted me to get weekly pool store tests of my water. Even though we know that they are unreliable I did it to ensure that I could have warranty coverage. I also remember the first month was like a baby having to brush The pool twice a day and clean the filter probably every two or three days.

And what a relief on day 30 when my saltwater chlorine generator could be turned on....... Best thing ever
 
Is it tomorrow yet??? Now remember to check the bags to make sure they have YOUR color! Where you here for the mixed up colors? Our TFP person ordered and paid for MAJOR upgrades to his plaster..................he got home to a plain, Jane WHITE plaster.........while down the road they came home to HIS blinged out plaster :shock: He got a full chip and redo while the other guy got a blinged out pool!

Now remember do NOT stop the flow of water (saying it for any others that might not have heard any of this before).

Put socks on the ends of the hose and maybe have many extras the change them out due to your well water. The socks will protect the new plaster and help filter the water. Put the end of the hose at the lower part of the pool so the flow will not mess up the new plaster.
 
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onBalance said:
Do you know what the readings are for your trucked-in water? pH, TA, and CH?
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Not using trucked in water... non available without high iron. So I'm using well water - well balanced out of the well but has sulfide and a trace amount of tannin. Also none detected iron, manganese, magnesium but I'm adding phosphate chelating (Pro Team) just to be sure.
 
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setsailsoon said:
Not using trucked in water... non available without high iron. So I'm using well water - well balanced out of the well but has sulfide and a trace amount of tannin. Also none detected iron, manganese, magnesium but I'm adding phosphate chelating (Pro Team) just to be sure.
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Just know that tannins can stain the plaster surface especially given how high the pH is at the surface due to the calcium hydroxide present. You’ll want to wait the full 3-day break in period without adding any chlorine (I pretty sure it’s 3 unless the NPC has changed its guidelines) and then, as soon as those three days are up you’ll want to bring the FC up to 3ppm. I suggest floating trichlor tabs after adding liquid chlorine as it will take time for the CYA to come up and you need the stabilizer anyway. Floating the tabs will ensure a slow source of available chlorine. You can add the sequestering agent at that point too. Don’t worry about the phosphonates in the sequestering agent, they’re not a big deal now.
 
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