New pool wanting to hard plumb

[mommark]

So, I just ordered our 16' x 32' x 54" above ground pool. We are going to have it installed and want to hard plumb the system. What all is needed in regards to shut off valves, ect... ? How many valves should we have?
Here are the pool items.
Hayward 23" sand filter, 1 1/2 hp, 2 speed Matrix pump
1 skimmer
Raypak 206k btu natural gas heater

Thank you

 

[kimkats]

I have a valve under my skimmer, another valve under my return. I also have my backwash pipe valved and hard plumbed.

I would also put in a hard plumb in a heater bypass for just in case.

Oh and UNIONS! Unions every where you might need it to remove (filter to clean it) or replair (pump), etc.

Kim

 

[mommark]

Thank you, kimkats. Are the valves from hardware store's okay? Or should I purchase a higher quality pool valve?

 

[kimkats]

That is what I have as I did not know about the really good ones before I had these added. Just make sure you have room to cut and replace if/when they fail. IF you have a big enough wallet you might want to get the good ones that can be rebuilt. That is what I will be getting when/if these fail.

Kim

 

[PebblePool]

I concur with Kim, the hardware store valves will work, however after knowing more, I would get Jandy valves.

That is what I have as I did not know about the really good ones before I had these added. Just make sure you have room to cut and replace if/when they fail. IF you have a big enough wallet you might want to get the good ones that can be rebuilt. That is what I will be getting when/if these fail.

Kim

 

[mommark]

Kim,
So, typically 3 valves? I want to get everything ordered prior to installation. I have seen 1 way, 2 way and 3 way valves. Just confused now.

 

[kimkats]

I will tell you where I used them:

-one right under the skimmer. It is open/close.

-one right under the return. It is open/close also

I also have one on my backwash pipe that is also open/close.

So that is 3 valves that only need to open close.

WIll you have a main drain in? I did but it really does not help keep the pool clean

Kim

 

[mommark]

Not sure if there's a main drain. From the pool diagram, I could only see the area for the skimmer and one other circular cutout.

 

[kimkats]

Okay so that would be the skimmer and return. So you will need a total of 3 valves. All you need is open/shut valves. I hope this helps!

Kim

 

[cfherrman]

Why would you valve the backwash?

 

[kimkats]

I have hard plumped it. It is connected to my skimmer AND to my filter. That way when I need to lower water due to rain or such all I have to do is open it up and the water comes out. So I guess it is not really valved to my back wash. Sorry about that. When you get closer to having it done I will take and share a pic of how it is all done.

Kim

 

[mommark]

I have hard plumped it. It is connected to my skimmer AND to my filter. That way when I need to lower water due to rain or such all I have to do is open it up and the water comes out. So I guess it is not really valved to my back wash. Sorry about that. When you get closer to having it done I will take and share a pic of how it is all done.

I would love to see some pictures please. I did some searching for pictures, but one of the older threads about this no longer has pictures that I am not able to view.

 

[cowboycasey]

I just did an install this weekend, here are some pics

Here is my install on a 16x32

Hope this helps

 

[kimkats]

Casey?? Where are the valves on the first one? I see the valves on the second one.

I will work on pics. of mine.

Kim

 

[cfherrman]

Using the first pic, put a valve under the skimmer and port suction, one to control the flow and two to shut it off for repairs. Then on the return put a valve under the return so you can shut it off for repairs.

 

[cowboycasey]

I did it on the cheap... I am going to put a valve on the skimmer side ?

 

[kimkats]

Casey I see your "helper" in the pool! I bet he works for cheap! SO CUTE!

Kim

 

[mommark]

I just did an install this weekend, here are some pics

Here is my install on a 16x32

Hope this helps

Did you paint your pvc? Or where did you find the black pvc? We are going to have a pool heater also, so not sure how that would need to be plumbed.

 

[cowboycasey]

It is PlastiDip from dipyourcar 4 coat base black with 1 anthracite coat last... Still looks the same 3 years later You can also get it from ACE hardware...

 

[mommark]

DIY Hard Plumbing Suggestion

I would love to see pictures of hard plumbing for an above ground pool, plus directions and list of necessary parts. Being a newbie, it would help out greatly.
Perhaps shown with a pool heater and with out.