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    Do I need a check valve added so my spa doesn't drain?

    I understand that a common practice would be to have a portion of the water diverted to the spa and overflow into the pool to keep the water clean and sanitized (our last pool was like that). Because we have a cover on the pool and automation that's not realistic unless the cover is opened...
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    Do I need a check valve added so my spa doesn't drain?

    The spa does not act as a water feature. While there is a "spillway" it's only for filling or topping off the spa. If I want to use it as a spill way it would basically just be having the spa in "fill' mode (both 3way valves fully open to the spa side). When the valves are in "pool mode" no...
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    Do I need a check valve added so my spa doesn't drain?

    Thanks for the reply Jimrahbe. When in pool mode the return valve is set to fully close. When in Spa Mode the pump is fully diverted (3 ways are closed to the pool) to the spa - sucks from the spa drains, returns via the spa return lines. My thinking was that, with the pump off, the water in...
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    Do I need a check valve added so my spa doesn't drain?

    Thanks for the reply. When the hot tub is heated or the system is in "spa mode" no water goes over the spillway. In service mode I can set the valves to "fill" which pulls water from the pool (skimmer and drains) and returns it to the hot tub but only really do that to fill the hot tub and...
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    Do I need a check valve added so my spa doesn't drain?

    Our 9 year old pool has a hot tub connected to it that's water surface is about 18" higher than the pool's. They share a pump. When not used the water in the hot tub has always slowly gone down. Each year it got progressively worse. About 4 years ago I replaced the diverter inside the Jandy...
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    Sand filter let's silt through? Alternative media?

    Clean pressure is around 14psi, I generally backwash around 28-30psi which is what I was told when the pool was new, to backwash when it goes up 15psi. I'm not fully convinced it is a filter issue but common sense sort of dictates that as far as I can tell. I could be wrong but have not heard...
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    Sand filter let's silt through? Alternative media?

    It's too fine to rub between your fingers, or to catch to rub between your fingers. If you rub a puddle or collected spot of it with finger against the bottom it is like a very very very fine grit. It basically dissipates when you brush it, into a light cloud that, as it spreads it almost...
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    Sand filter let's silt through? Alternative media?

    I am not sure what you mean by "flushed out". You mean when I backwash the filter or flushed out of the filter into the pool? I assume you mean when backwashed. After I have backwashed I still have the same issue. I believe the silt is going through the filter and thus, not collected and not...
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    Sand filter let's silt through? Alternative media?

    Yes, from what I learned here I actively monitor and manage my chems using the test kit recommended here. Use liquid chlorine and supplement with tablets when out of town. The pool has a cover and is covered nights and during the day when not in use. Get very little debris in the pool. I put...
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    Sand filter let's silt through? Alternative media?

    My pool is about 5 years old and has a cover over it most of the time. Since it was new I have had an issue with silt collecting in areas of the pool. The longer the pump runs the more silt. It's a very fine silt and dissipates with water movement but, of course, settles out again over time...
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    How to check sand level in Cristal Flo II sand filter, think builder under filled

    Long story short. I have very little confidence the pool builder we used. It seems our Cristal-Flo II 3.15 sf allows a fair amount of either sand or silt through the filter and back in to the pool. I suspect it's silt because when brushed it disperses easily (my readings here indicate that is...
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    Builder forgot supply line for water features - Plan B?

    Only have the one skimmer. The builder just basically filled the gunite around the skimmer and let the second line seal with it so I don't thing that is an option but I will see if there is anyway to clear it. It should be at or near the outside edge of the gunite. I did think about the debri...
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    Builder forgot supply line for water features - Plan B?

    Ok, I did not make myself completely clear. When I said the PB forgot the supply line to the features I meant the suction line. All supply line to the features are in but there is not suction line to the pump for the features. I will address a couple of the suggestions and questions so far...
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    Builder forgot supply line for water features - Plan B?

    Very long story but our builder forgot to put in the supply line for our water features (2 sheer decent falls and 8 deck jets, separate Pentair VS pump). I have zero confidence in them and will likely negotiate a separation and finish the pool myself. I am considering using the skimmer line...
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    The 2hp pump is Pentair 2hp SupeFlo. The pool has a 3.12 sq ft Cristal-Flo Sand Filter. I talked to Pentair support with regard to the filter and they told me running it at 1500 RPM (preset setting #2 of 4) was optimal for re-circulation and over 2500 RPM would be too high and clean very...
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    I should add, I suspect that when the 2hp Jet pump is running I would suspect the VS recirc pump will be very low, maybe equiv to 1/2 to 3/4hp.
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    The pump for the pool/spa is a Pentair VS (non SVRS) and the pump for the spa jets is a 2 HP Pentair.
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    That is a really interesting idea. The fact is the single return line is under the same cover as one of the two lines for the dual MD line (one cover has one of the pipes for the dual MD suction and the other cover has the 2nd pipe for the dual MD suction as well as the pipe for the single...
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    Thanks Mas. Sorry for the multiple postings, didn't realize this would move to the top. It sounds like you are saying that a diverter after the pump but before the filter and heater and then right back into the shared return line (before the diverter to the spa or pool) would do the trick...
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    Spa-Jets, Any problem using pool pump and diverter rather than a dedicated pump??

    Our builder did not put in a split safety drain for the spa-jet pump and I am very uncomfortable with that. The pool pump is shared with the pool and, of course, both suction and supply switch to the spa when in spa mode and THAT suction does have a split safety drain. I have come up with the...
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    Thanks Mas, I am in Albuquerque NM. I have come up with the idea of eliminating the dedicated spa-jet pump and instead using the pool pump with a diverter. When we want the spa-jets on just divert a portion or all of the water from the spa return to the jets. Our pool pump is a Pentair VS...
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    Is it OK for my builder to add a suction line he forgot??? Leak concern here.

    I don't really expect him to change his practices but I am not sure how big a deal it is to add such a line. Sounds big to me but he seems to think it's not. Over the life of the pool, being able to leave my cleaner in the pool and it turning on and off automatically is a big deal. I MUCH...
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    Is it OK for my builder to add a suction line he forgot??? Leak concern here.

    Thanks Jbiz. Already have the cleaner and like the idea of being able to leave it in and just schedule it to come on a couple of times during the day. I can see adding a line before the plaster more than after. I guess I'm wondering if this is fairly routine or out there an may lead to leak...
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    Is it OK for my builder to add a suction line he forgot??? Leak concern here.

    Long story but my pool builder forgot to put in the dedicated suction cleaner line we had spec'd in. The pool has just been plastered and filled. He went through all of the piping and valving and when I asked him where the dedicated cleaner line he basically said, "oops, forgot it." After a...
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    Spa Safety Drain and Jet Supply line SAFETY concern.

    We are having a pool/spa with a spillway built, on pump for pool and spa. The spa will have a separate pump for the spa jets. When the pool company plumbed it they put a split safety drain in the spa (as well as the pool but my question is about the spa drain). They also put another line from...