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    Is it common for new liners to keep falling off and holes in cement floor?

    It depends on the size/shape of the rock. If it is big and pointy you will have a problem. If it is small and smooth you won't have a problem. Anything in between will be some varying level of "a problem" :) Just keep in mind that you will be rubbing over this stone many times every time you...
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    Liner out of track

    Pennies are pretty common and perfectly safe. You can usually push them in far enough that you barely see anything. Usually when people start messing around with a screwdriver in their track, they end up putting a hole in the liner--not recommended. Also, it will be pretty hard to bend the...
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    Is it common for new liners to keep falling off and holes in cement floor?

    It is common to install liner lock in small sections. It is intended to go around the entire pool, but it is a real pain and most installers don't want to go through the trouble. It sounds like, for your pool, it would make sense to do the entire perimeter though. As for your floor--if the...
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    UPDATED Blue Liner white stains? pics included

    Just want to point out that this is definitely not a manufacturing/print defect. It is easy to tell because the "stain" crosses over seams. It would be wildly unlikely that the print was defective across those three pieces and would line up perfectly. Whatever caused the problem happened...
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    Any Kayak pool reviews?

    I don't know too much about Kayak pools, but if you are looking at different options, here is another: http://www.aquastarmi.com/ Wood wall "on ground" pool. Inexpensive alternative to a standard inground pool.
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    pool builder recommendations- Bergen County, NJ

    I have worked closely with Cool Pool in Nanuet NY for about 20 years. They focus on high end vinyl liner pools and gunite. They are great people to work with and true experts at their craft. They have a fairly impressive portfolio: http://www.coolpool.com/new-pools/concrete-swimming/ Good luck!
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    Going crazy choosing new liner!

    I'm always amazed how many pool dealers advise their customers that the water will look muddy if they install a tan liner. It really has a nice effect, as you can see in the pictures linked to this thread. The only thing I'd like to add--the water looks a little greenish on an overcast day.
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    Where does one purchase a high-end vinyl pool liner?

    Most online retailers have varying levels of quality. Most of them are owned by the same company as well. I noticed recently they are selling above ground grade vinyl for in ground swimming pools. "What's the problem with that", you ask? Above ground liners are typically made of...
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    Liner Popping Out

    Coffee maker works well also to get the vinyl supple. You can use high quality duct tape to make a sort of handle to stretch the vinyl into place (just don't punch yourself in the face if it slips). Personally (and I don't have to do it very often) I will just work the bead right at the ends...
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    Liner Rails

    Hi vmwonders. You probably dealt with this already, but the product you are (where) looking for is "Coping Paint". It is for aluminum coping.
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    Custom Design ICF Pool. How to Line it/where to get it?

    This simple answer is this: if you can measure it we can make a liner for it. Almost all inground liners are custom made. If the pool shape is far from normal then you can expect to pay around 20% more for the liner.
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    converting a concrete pool to a vinyl liner

    You don't need to worry about the corners popping out of the track--once they are in they are hard to get out. Other sections of the bead will pop out before the corners do. Make sure you use aluminum liner track instead of plastic though. It is common for bulging to occur in square and 6"...
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    converting a concrete pool to a vinyl liner

    Yes, this shape lends itself very nicely to liner conversion. In my 13 years in liner manufacturing, hundreds of these have come across my desk. It's called a constant slope pool. They sell front mount liner track that you screw into the wall all around the pool. They come in 8' lengths and...
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    Loop loc Mesh vs Solid

    Loop Loc makes a quality safety cover, but there are others out there that match or exceed their quality. Here is a quick overview of the various "quality" manufacturers of safety covers. This is just my opinion, so please don't sue me. Pegasus/Coverlon has an "okay" cover. All the dealers...
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    Options for slippery steps?

    All liner manufacturers have a "Textured" option for vinyl covered steps. Sometimes it's standard, sometimes you have to specify. I'm not entirely convinced that it prevents slips, but I'm sure it helps a little. When they build your pool, ask them to install "Rotating Eyeballs" at the steps...
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    Is National Pool Wholesalers a reputable company?

    torchme68, I don't think the problem was with the payment option. ACH is supposed to clear by the next business day.
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    Where can I find REVIEWS of Installers in NJ?

    I wish I saw this post earlier. A brief list of quality vinyl pool builders in your area: Cool Pool & Spa (expect to pay for a high-end pool from these guys. They do great work though) Masterson(these guys stand behind their reputation) Woodside (they do some beautiful landscape work)...
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    Best Online Merchant for Liners

    the warranty only covers "manufacturer's defects" anyway. No liner manufacturer warranties against fading.
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    Making a vinyl liner bottom less slippery?

    I've had dealers install diving board griptape on the top tread of the steps for added traction. When you replace your liner ask for textured material for the step. The grip tape may need to be re-applied each season, but it isn't that difficult to do. I am convinced that the slipperiness is...
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    Best Online Merchant for Liners

    Sorry, can't think of any. *wink, wink*
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    small rock under my vinyl liner

    So you've had a rock under your liner for a few years? You should have had them deal with it when they installed it. You'll probably end up with a hole there eventually. Keep your eye on it--when it opens up, cut the rock out or bang it down and patch the liner.
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    need new liner.

    Beware of liars and deceivers. If you find someone talking about the "gauge" thickness of vinyl, just run away and find someone who refers to the thickness of vinyl in mils (thousands of an inch). There is no regulation on the term "gauge" when it refers to vinyl thickness, so they can state...
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    Liner Thickness and Color Pic Request

    Hi Anthony, In regards to liner color: Water filters out the red and yellow end of the spectrum so a few inches below the water surface everything looks blue. Thats probably why you have never seen a picture of a grey pool. The neat thing about using non-blue liners is the effect it has on...
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    renewing pool liner

    goldsax, A poor fitting liner is a good indicator of a pool that is out of whack, so if you intend to do this project yourself be very careful when measuring. As for what to look for when buying a liner. Firstly lets start with blatant fraud that's going around on the internet. Many online...
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    Vinyl Install - Use Foam Backing or Not?

    Wall Foam pros: Gives a nice feel[/*:m:19roo9dp] smooths out rough areas[/*:m:19roo9dp] hides panel joints[/*:m:19roo9dp] Cons: If you have a high water table, and your liner floats, this stuff will detach from the wall and make a big mess behind your liner[/*:m:19roo9dp] When the liner gets...