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  1. wayner

    Effect of the carbon tax on pool heating in Canada - should you still buy a gas heater?

    Thanks for responding! I still have a gas heater but I am just doing this exercise for when it is time to replace my heater. What Hydro pricing plan are you on? I am on ULO which has prices of about $0.03/kWh overnight? Assuming that I can put some sort of a switch on the HP I would happen...
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    Why is some of the tubing in my spa very discoloured?

    Not that I recall. I will check the next time I take the panel off. Taking off the panel is a PITA as you have to take out about 15 screws or so. And then putting it back on you have to try to hold a fairly heavy panel while putting in the screws - not too easy to do by yourself. I wish that...
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    Why is some of the tubing in my spa very discoloured?

    That's what I was wondering. I am guessing that it likely isn't working, I don't smell ozone when I have the panel off of the tub, as I did on the weekend. Should there be a tube connected to the other port on the ozonator? If it isn't working, and I don't want to replace it, then is there...
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    Why is some of the tubing in my spa very discoloured?

    It looks it might be disconnected. I didn't notice that until looking at this picture now.
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    Why is some of the tubing in my spa very discoloured?

    Thanks, it probably does go to my ozonator. How do I even know if my ozonator is still working? It is labelled Spa Necessities.
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    Why is some of the tubing in my spa very discoloured?

    Here is a picture of some of the tubing in my spa. There is a rather thin tube that is very brown and feels kind of gummy. This is just after my flow switch where there is a hard plastic connector. I am not sure where this goes - perhaps someone else has an idea. Is this an issue? Should...
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    pH Insanity!

    If it makes you feel any better I am in the same boat. If I want pH below 8 I have to live with TA of 50 or lower. I use MA to reduce pH and baking soda to try to increase TA.
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    Foam with a pink hue after using Ahhsome

    I did my next drain and refill. This time I did a purge with the full ahhsome dose of 2 tsp. Four hours later I did a second dose with 1 tsp. I left the tub overnight and did another purge with 1/2 tsp about 9 hours later. Then I drained, making sure I used my shop vac on every jet. I...
  11. wayner

    Why So Few Heat Pumps

    Possibly but at a 2030 tax rate of $0.324/m^3 that won't be a big deal for diamonds, but a much bigger deal for nat gas usage.
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    Why So Few Heat Pumps

    Here in Canada almost all of the heaters that you see are natural gas, at least around Toronto. Gas is normally cheaper, but that may be changing. We have a carbon tax that is increasing each year, so in the next few years that can flip-flop and gas may become more expensive (the carbon tax...
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    Does CH matter at all in a vinyl pool? What about for heater or SWCG?

    Thanks @JoyfulNoise - that's the way I have thought about it ever since I owned the pool, but I kept hearing about needing some CH. I did have to replace one heater, but it lasted about 12 years. The current heater was installed in May 2019 and seems in good shape.
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    This is me as well. With my pool at opening in May I need to add salt, and CYA. Once those are at desired levels I might have to occasionally add acid, but beyond that it is pretty maintenance free. With the tub I have to keep more of an eye on things and I can never get TA and pH to both be...
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    Does CH matter at all in a vinyl pool? What about for heater or SWCG?

    Thanks for that. My water tends to have CH around 120 so I will try to up it a bit next year.
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    Does CH matter at all in a vinyl pool? What about for heater or SWCG?

    I was having this discussion and I read on Pool School here where it says that for vinyl pools then CH doesn't matter. But they insisted that it did matter if you have a heater. I would think that with a heater or SWCG that lower calcuium means less limescale buildup. Anyone know the answer...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    Yes, I did want that. But there may be other ways of doing this, and the power monitoring for the heater is pretty simple - while it is on it is using 5kW. So as long as you have some other way of sensing on or off then you should be able to easily calculate power usage as (Hours ON)*5.5kW.
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    IMO the only time that this issue matters if you like really long soaks. If you only go in for 15-30 minutes it is much less of a deal, especially if you don't live in a very cold climate. It took me years to even notice that the heater didn't run when the pumps are on as the heater LED is on...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    My spa is a Jacuzzi J-345 from about 2006, but I know that others have said that their spas also don't heat while the jets are going. My heater is 5.5kW. So that is about 23A at 240V. Adding a couple more kWs for the pumps would be getting up there.
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    recommended brands

    Regarding sound systems - this is something that doesn't have to be in your tub. I have a whole home audio system and I have put four speakers around the tub, pointing inwards. I have other zones outside around the pool, on the deck, etc. The sound can be for music, or for the TV that is...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    That doesn't really matter with respect to when the heater is active. The switch that I installed just cuts power from the power block to the heater, but the pumps still get power and work. And in my tub when the main pumps are going the heater shuts off, I guess that there is not enough power...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    Looks very cool, I am playing around with HA these days. I have a Home Automation system called Control4, which is very good, but it is a closed system and you technically need a dealer to do a lot of things to the system unless you are ok with Jailbreaking your system, which I have done. But...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    This Sonoff switch is a "wet contact", no point in using this larger, more expensive device to flip a relay. By actually on I did mean when the heater was actually heating water. There probably is some other device to use, I haven't seen one, but I am sure there is something out there. Or you...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    How is it mondo savings in a spa? How much do the pumps run in a spa? In a pool that runs 12-24 hours per day I can see that, but in a spa it doesn't run that much, unless you are in the spa for hours per day. And when you are in the spa don't you want the pumps running at full power to give...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    I am trying to use some DS18B20 temperature probes to monitor the temperatures of (1) the water, (2) the inside of the tub enclosure, and (3) the ambient air temperature. I wanted to use these with another Sonoff device which is a THR320D - which is a switch which also has an RJ9 input for the...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    Yes, the other thing I was considering was using a dry contact relay to flip an actuator. That is the old school way of doing it, one downside of that is that I don't get the power monitoring. The nicest thing about the power monitoring is that I know when the heater is actually on and heating...
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    This is exactly the point. I want the heater on from 11pm-7am, maybe on a bit during the rest of the day, but I never want it to come on from 5-9pm when my power is very expensive.
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    Putting a Smart Switch on my Hot Tub heater

    I have been monitoring the switch and it seems that the heater kicks on about twice per day for about 30 minutes at a time. So it isn't like there is going to be a huge fall in the water temp when the switch is off and not allowing the heater to kick on. So by controlling when the water is...
  29. wayner

    I swear I can smell low pH, anyone else?

    My spa uses a SWCG for sanitizing. But I would notice this same smell back when I used bromine years ago.