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wmarq

wmarq

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Apr 22, 2024
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Tyler,tx
Pool Size
34000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Hi, Everyone!
Hope to find some advice here

Have 30,000 gallon pool that I want to switch back to SWG, it was/is a Hayward Aqualogic control smart pure T-15 Salt cell orinally 17 years ago. Switched to tablet feeder 3 yrs ago when the cell went down (boy was that a mistake) now wanting to go back SWG but want to make sure I get the right cell that works with this system but will not have to run at what always seemed like 100% output just to keep 3ppm in the pool. Someone mentioned T-40, is there such a thing ? What do I actually need that goes with this controller that I already have?

Thanks
 
wmarq said:
Have 30,000 gallon pool that I want to switch back to SWG, it was/is a Hayward Aqualogic control smart pure T-15 Salt cell orinally 17 years ago. Switched to tablet feeder 3 yrs ago when the cell went down (boy was that a mistake) now wanting to go back SWG but want to make sure I get the right cell that works with this system but will not have to run at what always seemed like 100% output just to keep 3ppm in the pool.
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What is the pump run time?

Are you using the old cell or did you buy a new cell?

Can you post a picture of the cell serial number?

wmarq said:
Someone mentioned T-40, is there such a thing ? What do I actually need that goes with this controller that I already have?
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Where did you see that?

The T-15 is advertised for a 40k pool so maybe there was some confusion there.

There is also the TCELL940 cell but that is just a longer life cell.
 
here's the numbers , I agree I saw that the t-15 is advertised for 40k pool and I think that is what I originally had but general advice on here is that I need more than that so as not to work so hard. I run the pump 10hrs a day , but I can run it however long it takes , I am just using bleach currently...when they put the tablet feeder on years ago they took the swg that I had......
 

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What is the pump run time?

Are you using the old cell or did you buy a new cell?

Can you post a picture of the cell serial number?


Where did you see that?

The T-15 is advertised for a 40k pool so maybe there was some confusion there.

There is also the TCELL940 cell but that is just a longer life cell.
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I posted on the feed, not sure if I am supposed to do that or use the reply . pls advise if I did it wrong
 
That cell was manufactured in 2007 so when you stopped using it, it was already 13 years old and well beyond its lifespan.

Can you post a picture of the actual SWG cell with serial number?

Are you getting low salt warnings?

What are the cell diagnostics when running? Volts, Amps, Temp, Salt

Have you measured the pool salt level with an independent test (e.g. Taylor K-1766 Sodium Chloride Salt Water Drop Test Kit)?
 
yes it was installed in 2007 but I am not running a salt pool currently, when that happened I had a tablet feeder installed and started using trichlor , "Have 30,000 gallon pool that I want to switch back to SWG". Going through the tablet nightmare is what brought me to this forum , and I have decided to stop using trichlor and put a swg back on but I want to make sure I size correctly. I have the controller setup already, so I am just looking for advise on the right size Hayward generator for my 30K pool. I assume I need to stick with Hayward due to the fact that I already have the Hayward"controller" or whatever it is called, but maybe that is a wrong assumption.
 
We generally recommend the largest cell possible as it has the best economics so I would go with the T-CELL-15 or the TCELL940. You can also look at generic cells but they may not last as long.

But the questions I asked are very important for when you put the new cell back on. Your salt level may be too high or too low. You cannot trust the readout of the SWG unit when the cell is very old.

If you want to ignore those questions and damage your unit, then go for it.
 
I am not going to ignore any advice that I receive in this forum , I value it. That's why Im here. Thanks for the recommendation and the help. If you have advice on what salt level I need to maintain , or for where those other parameters "What are the cell diagnostics when running? Volts, Amps, Temp, Salt" should be I would like to know. That way if I see something different it will set off an alarm in my head. I have the test kit from tfp now , I just need the salt test from them. (didn't get that as I wasn't running salt at the time)
 

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Once you have the readings and the salt levels, post back and we will discuss then.
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hello again
Just following up on this conversation with some information and answers to your prior questions.

Swg installed was TCELL940
I salt tested at 3200 with the kit from tf test kits

Anything that I need to be on the lookout for that you are aware of?
 

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It looks like it is running properly.

For maintenance, periodically inspect the cell for scale. When the cell gets dirty, the amps will go down. And the displayed salt will also go down. But you have to compare the unit display with your test kit to make sure it isn't just low salt that is the issue.

For cleaning, I use a very thin bamboo skewer to remove visible scale and then rinse. If that is not enough to bring up the displayed salt and I know from independent testing the salt level is ok, I will then move to acid cleaning. However, I use a dosage about half of what is recommended in the manual so not to damage the cell (~8:1). It just takes a little longer.
 
ok great. its been less than a week but I think it does raise the PH quicker or is it just the hotter weather? how to you manage that? I was just going to let it rise to I guess 8 and then take it down to 7.6 or so and repeat but I would be interested in how you manage. I have some fill water with 190TA so I think I might have a battle in front of me when it comes to that.

I also would like to ask if you had a suggestion for a wireless remote? bought this years ago (Hayward AquaPod AQL2-POD2 Waterproof Wireless Remote AQL2POD2) and within less than a year it couldn't be off the base for more than 30 mins and I cannot see anywhere where they sell a battery replacement . Sure would be nice to put it on my phone but the only thing I found there was on this forum (AQL-PS-8 Remote Emulator - App Store) which I might be willing to try idk. even now that Aquapod is online for over $500 which ok then but its only gonna last a year or so and then be planted permanently on the Base. Lots of questions I know , appreciate anything you feel like I could use and thx again
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ok great. its been less than a week but I think it does raise the PH quicker or is it just the hotter weather? how to you manage that? I was just going to let it rise to I guess 8 and then take it down to 7.6 or so and repeat but I would be interested in how you manage. I have some fill water with 190TA so I think I might have a battle in front of me when it comes to that.
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Higher temperatures mean higher evaporation and more use of fill water. And if you have high TA/PH fill water as most people do, then that will drive PH up. I use an acid dosing system to keep CSI in a non-scaling range of around -0.3.

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I also would like to ask if you had a suggestion for a wireless remote? bought this years ago (Hayward AquaPod AQL2-POD2 Waterproof Wireless Remote AQL2POD2) and within less than a year it couldn't be off the base for more than 30 mins and I cannot see anywhere where they sell a battery replacement . Sure would be nice to put it on my phone but the only thing I found there was on this forum (AQL-PS-8 Remote Emulator - App Store) which I might be willing to try idk. even now that Aquapod is online for over $500 which ok then but its only gonna last a year or so and then be planted permanently on the Base. Lots of questions I know , appreciate anything you feel like I could use and thx again
)
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Yes, that is the app that I developed. You can read more about it here:

AQL-PS-8 Remote Emulator App

A couple months ago, I started to have problems with my AquaLogic PS8 wireless remote. It frequently showed "The base receiver is not responding" which usually only lasted for a short period of time due to weak signal levels. But this time, it lasted for nearly a half day and eventually it...
www.troublefreepool.com www.troublefreepool.com

Several people on the forum are using it now.

There is also a version that will run on Home Assistant.
 
Good evening
Have noticed that since swg has been installed, this corner of the cabinet is putting out heat. Not so hot that you can’t touch it but definitely hot. Seems to get hotter and then sometimes less hot (maybe when the SWG is off or on the off cycle) but it’s always definitely warmer than the rest of the box. So my question : is this normal or a problem? I attached the photo.
 

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