- Jul 21, 2013
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variable vs single speed
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I did not know there are different models. I just asked him and he said RS4 and only difference is number of relays and I don't have many pieces of equipment and it is enough.
- Jun 7, 2017
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- Jandy Aquapure 1400
Just FYI you can control more than just your pool with the Aqualink. Like a sprinkler system. Low voltage lights. Electrical outlets. Etc. The RS4 limits you. Also make sure you are getting the full web interface IQ30-RS and not the IQ30a. Specifically ask that question. Ask to see a line item list of what you are paying for with complete model #s. You can never trust what the salespeople say. Not that they lie, but many are simply incompetent.
sorry. Trying to understand. I am getting RS4 system. I already have a wifi sprinkler system. I should have known before that various systems. That is fine now.
What does mean I get IQ30-RS? Do I get a device with RS4 that is either IQ30-RS vs IQ30A? Or RS4 having the ability to provide web interface by enabling software or having it some auxiliary interface?
By default, an ALRS system does not have any internet functionality. If you want the ability to control your equipment from the web/your phone, you will need an iAqualink kit.
If you are having a new Aqualink setup installed, all you need is the IQ-30A kit. The IQ-30RS is not required here. IQ-30RS is used when attempting to upgrade either a PDA-only setup or adding functionality to an outdated RS system. You will already have something with new enough firmware.
This is where Jandy's naming convention is annoying, opaque, and cumbersome.
An RS4 setup will give you the ability to control four relays/functions, including the pump. This is rather limiting if you have things like multiple pool lights. Another consideration is that, in Jandy's infinite wisdom, custom VSP speeds assigned to an aux label that can be quickly selected take up a "function", so if you have multiple speeds preset on a VSP, that will also eat up the 4 functions quickly, even though you aren't physically activating relays.
If you are having a new Aqualink setup installed, all you need is the IQ-30A kit. The IQ-30RS is not required here. IQ-30RS is used when attempting to upgrade either a PDA-only setup or adding functionality to an outdated RS system. You will already have something with new enough firmware.
This is where Jandy's naming convention is annoying, opaque, and cumbersome.
An RS4 setup will give you the ability to control four relays/functions, including the pump. This is rather limiting if you have things like multiple pool lights. Another consideration is that, in Jandy's infinite wisdom, custom VSP speeds assigned to an aux label that can be quickly selected take up a "function", so if you have multiple speeds preset on a VSP, that will also eat up the 4 functions quickly, even though you aren't physically activating relays.
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When I asked my installer, he said 'That is just an upgrade antenna what you're looking at is individual pieces for upgrading current systems what I'm putting in is a complete new system'
I am assuming I can access it through the web interface.
Typically web interface allows more configuration vs app. Assuming the same here.
Correct, you will be able to control it via the web interface either via the app (there is a "Web" button) or via iAqualink.com.
Actual programming is done via the web interface. The app lets you check the overall status and turn things on and off.
Actual programming is done via the web interface. The app lets you check the overall status and turn things on and off.
- Jun 7, 2017
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- Pool Size
- 29000
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- Chlorine
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- SWG Type
- Jandy Aquapure 1400
I don't understand this. I don't think this is correct. You can set whatever speed you want in the speed setup screen. It does not take any "functions" up.
I probably did a poor job of wording that. But no, it's not incorrect. If you assign a speed to an aux (for example, you want a quick way to ramp up the pump for dosing chemicals), it eats up that aux.
General speeds, no. A speed you can quickly select, yes.
General speeds, no. A speed you can quickly select, yes.
- Jun 7, 2017
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- Pool Size
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- Jandy Aquapure 1400
Yeah I kind of see what you are saying. But if you were to assign a speed to an aux, it would be like assigning 3000 rpms to the aux that turns the waterfalls on, for instance. I am not sure anyone uses it in the way you describe. And actually I am not even sure how you would assign that. For instance, if you assigned a speed to aux3, how would you activate aux3? I can kind of see this in your image. I just never heard of doing this. For me, I just go to the VSP speed screen and select what speed I want to run.
Maybe my brain works differently than other people 
lol
So for example in my screenshot, since "High Speed" is an aux, I can just select it from the Other Devices menu in the web interface or the Equipment tab in the app. But it probably makes more sense to mention that I originally did not have iAqualink. I was controlling everything through an All-Button. Since All-Buttons don't really have VSP speed control, the only thing I could do was set a speed to an aux, that way I could just press a button on the indoor controller and adjust the speed. It's not set to turn on anything else.
lolSo for example in my screenshot, since "High Speed" is an aux, I can just select it from the Other Devices menu in the web interface or the Equipment tab in the app. But it probably makes more sense to mention that I originally did not have iAqualink. I was controlling everything through an All-Button. Since All-Buttons don't really have VSP speed control, the only thing I could do was set a speed to an aux, that way I could just press a button on the indoor controller and adjust the speed. It's not set to turn on anything else.
We are getting off track but there is another way to ramp up a predefined speed.
On your main screen you should have VSP spd adj. Hit that icon then you can hit any speed you have preset. This does not use any aux.
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I see that now in PoolGate's screenshot too. I literally had no idea that existed lmao. I'm an idiot.
OK i'll stop derailing the thread now
OK i'll stop derailing the thread now
We have to remember that you are upgrading from a old ZX so you should be getting a complete new system include a cabinet, a new computer board (PCB) that has the latest revision and an antenna.
You will also need to have a RS485 cable (it is 4 wire cable) that will hook up between the pump and the new control board.
You will have relays in it which one will power the pump, another for spa light and another for pool light.
I think you were considering adding more pool lights - if they are connected to 1 relay then they will all work together - on, off, same color,
If you wish to have separate control then you will need the additional relays - RS-6 or RS-8.
Also, do you have a blower for the spa jets - if so that is another relay needed for that.
I know this is a lot to take in But better to ask questions now before it is installed.
Thanks. I am getting more clear now. Rightnow, we have this.
1. pump off/on
2. blower on/off
3. Pool 3 lights one aux being used on pda
4. spa light one aux being used on pda
I guess it will take to use all 4 relays. Not sure how I can control to heat spa only or pool only or combo. Not sure if i am missing anything else.
I was told it is cheaper to add additional controls than buying now RS6 or 8.
- Jun 7, 2017
- 9,794
- Pool Size
- 29000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
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- SWG Type
- Jandy Aquapure 1400
VSP pump does not use an aux. Lights and JVAs do. Heater does not. SWCG also does not. I have an RS4 and have a VSP pump, heater, SWCG, 2 lights, 2 waterfalls, and with all that I still have an "extra aux" (which is the solar relay) for controlling my low voltage landscaping lights (it actually just controls the outlet they are plugged into). I have no spa though.
Are you getting the PDA? It is not included with the RS system and is an extra usually $800.
It will cost like $1000 to upgrade to an RS6 or 8. It requires a new PCB board. The main board is the same. If you think you will ever need it, get it now.
I think @Giri has a PDA now with the ZX system.
The new system should be a full AquaLink RS with Antenna to control by phone app or via PC.
Your heater will connect to the filter/pump relay for power so it knows only to turn on when pump is on.
You will be able to either have heat with pool or heat with spa.
If you are ok with all 3 pool lights on the same relay and aux then the RS4 is enough for what you will be doing.
The pool spec is correct that you can add another relay and mount it in the cabinet.
Probably, I am fine with RS4 and really don't see anything added for the near future. Herman mentioned one relay needed for the pump and one needed for the blower. I am confused on pump if neeeded a relay.
I have Jandy Pro R0687300 Remote that came with z4. Not sure this PDA can still be used with new system. I doubt as it is RF based.
- Jun 7, 2017
- 9,794
- Pool Size
- 29000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Jandy Aquapure 1400
Yes, it can. I have the same PDA. But you do need the PDA antenna. If you have that you just connect it via 4-wire RS485 connection. BTW: Aqualink will support 4 devices without adding the multiplex board. You might want to ask if you are getting that.
The load center you should be getting includes space for 8 high power relays. Mine currently has 5 in it, 4 of which are in use.
