Pentair Mastertemp 400 issue - manifold crack have anything to do with thermal regulator?

Mar 23, 2017
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Austin, Texas
Hello! A little background: Our heater is a little over 2 years old and is still under warranty. We got it right before the TX freeze 2 years ago. After the freeze, there was a tiny leak, I used some marine epoxy on where I thought the leak was (bottom near outlet) and it didn't seem to help but then after time, we never noticed the leak again. The heater continued to work perfectly for 2 years.

A few months ago, our heater would heat normally until it reached 79 and then it would cycle on/off every 60/90 seconds. I know this is a common problem. Called it in since it was still under warranty. Pool people came out, opened it up and said, there is a crack in the manifold - probably from the freeze and Pentair probably won't cover it. He called me back several hours later and said it isn't covered. Sent me a $135 bill for the service call and then an estimate for $1K to replace the manifold and thermal regulator. After I did some research, I thought the issue was either the high limit switch or the thermal regulator. My test I believe confirms it is the thermal regulator. My thinking is it is two separate issues. Yes, there is evidence of a crack from 2 years ago but that's not what is causing my cycling problem. The faulty thermal regulator is. The crack is not near the thermal regulator (honestly, I can't see it at all but do see some erosion on 3 bolts so know it is there somewhere). Can a crack in the manifold affect the thermal regultor? They are separate issues, correct? I think Pentair should replace the thermal regulator and cover the service call.

Also, the tech said the thermal regulator is corroded and that's a pool chemistry issue. My husband keeps our pool chemistry great - although he keeps the alkalinity between 60-80 - usually around 70 (we have a salt pool). The tech says it should be 100-140. Looked at the Pentair heater manual and it says min is 60, (which we never go below), but ideal is 80-100. Should he raise our alkalinity? Could 60 TA cause the thermal regulator to corrode?

Thanks!
 
No, TA 60 does not cause a thermal regulator to corrode.

Thermal regulator is easy to replace. Just do it yourself and don’t bother arguing with Pentair.

Your cracked manifold will give Pentair a reason to deny warranty claims.

 
Thanks. I don't mind too much replacing it myself but am ticked about the $135 service charge. Next question, is it necessary to replace the manifold if no noticeable leaks?

Just because you don't see a leak does not mean it is not leaking. Around the heater the water can be leaking and evaporating and you never see it.

You don't know how long the crack will hold before it lets go and then you have a bigger problem.

Replacing the manifold is not a tough job. Just wrenching out some bolts. There are YouTube videos showing how to do it. Replace the manifold, O rings, and bypass valve in addition to the thermal regulator.
 
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