Frog Ease floating system

Farmgal

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Jul 17, 2019
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I finally bought a hot tub - Dimension one Latitude. I love it but the chemistry is frustrating. The tub came with the ease floating system for sanitizing. I also bought the TFP test kit. The frog ease test strips do not record the same as the TFP test kit. Why is that?
 
We call test strips guess strips. They are worthless. Toss them in the trash and don't let them confuse you.
 
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The Frog ease floating system for sanitizing is not something that TFP would recommend. It is a combination of chlorine and what they call "minerals".


TFP does not and will not endorse or promote the use of “mineral” based alternative satnizers because by all peer reviewed literature they are not a sanitizer. While they do kill some of the organisms we want eliminated from pool water they do it much too slowly to protect swimmers from person to person transmission of these microorganisms. Here is an excerpt from the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (body having jurisdiction over swimming and spa pool sanitisers in Austrailia). I have added my emphasis to three parts:
In its document, Guidelines for Safe Recreational Waters Vol 2 – Swimming pools, spas and similar recreational-water environments, chapter 5 – Managing Water and Air Quality (WHO website), the World Health Organization states the following.

“The demand for fast biocidal action – to ensure that an infection of swimmers by transmission of bacteria and viruses via pool water does not occur even when the pool is used in rapid succession by large numbers of bathers – rules out the use of silver or other heavy metals for pool water disinfection, because a long exposure period (several hours) is required for these substances to show a biocidal effect. A quick, sensitive, analytical field procedure for measuring low concentrations of silver is not available.”

The German Federal Environmental Agency stated a very similar conclusion in its press release dated 8 February 2001 (external website). It states (in the final dot point):

Silver-copper compounds, mentioned by the press as alternatives to chlorination, may not be seriously considered for use in public swimming pools. They take effect too slowly. According to DIN 19643, the disinfectant must reduce the concentration of Pseudomonas aeruginosa by four decimal powers within 30 seconds. Silver-copper compounds take an hour or more for this. What is more, they do not have the necessary disinfectant capacity.”

Published papers in the scientific literature indicate that silver and copper ions require lengthy periods of time (usually in the range of several hours) to exhibit significant anti-bacterial activity. In addition to being slow, the antibacterial activity does not kill all cells but may have only a bacteriostatic effect on a portion of the population.

Virucidal activity also appears to be variable or not present for some viral types. Copper and silver ions in the presence of reduced levels of free chlorine (below 1 ppm) do not ensure the total elimination of viral pathogens from water.

If you research the “papers” supporting mineral use you will find that they are written/published by organizations that have a financial interest in selling the systems or are "alternative health" literature.


 
The Frog ease floating system for sanitizing is not something that TFP would recommend. It is a combination of chlorine and what they call "minerals".


TFP does not and will not endorse or promote the use of “mineral” based alternative satnizers because by all peer reviewed literature they are not a sanitizer. While they do kill some of the organisms we want eliminated from pool water they do it much too slowly to protect swimmers from person to person transmission of these microorganisms. Here is an excerpt from the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (body having jurisdiction over swimming and spa pool sanitisers in Austrailia). I have added my emphasis to three parts:

If you research the “papers” supporting mineral use you will find that they are written/published by organizations that have a financial interest in selling the systems or are "alternative health" literature.


Thank you! I understand much more now. Eventually I'll make the switch. When the store delivered and set up my tub they added the @ ease chemicals and floaty. I had no idea what the system was and have been learning ever since.
 
Interestingly, I’ve compared the Leisure Time strips to my Taylor test kit and they agree pretty well.
Welcome to the forum.
Great. Use them if you like. The forum will not provide guidance based on test strip or pool store data.

Take care.
 
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The frog system uses chlorine, but it is not "regular" chlorine. It is special, slow release chlorine - pretty much the same stuff as those "bleach tabs" you put in your toilet tank.

That kind of chlorine does not work with "normal" pool test kits - it only works with the Frog test strips. Most importantly, the frog system will cause a "normal" pool test kit to show abnormally high levels of combined chloramines.
 

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