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Just a heads up if you are considering an Active60. Although it looks like the same form factor as the S200/S300, it is significantly heavier. 24.5lbs instead of 16lbs. Might make it a little harder to remove from the pool.

I know my wife will not pull my M500 out of the pool.
 
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Katodude said:
Just a heads up if you are considering an Active60. Although it looks like the same form factor as the S200/S300, it is significantly heavier. 24.5lbs instead of 16lbs. Might make it a little harder to remove from the pool.

I know my wife will not pull my M500 out of the pool.
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I’m going to call around town and see if anyone has an S200 (or variant) for sale. I’d like to see what the local asking price is before I look at other out-of-state sources. Prefer to buy local when I can. Still on the fence though and the wife is pretty mad at the fact that robot died in the 5th year. Last year we replaced our IntelliChlor for nearly $1000 but she knew that was a good investment … she thinks it’s high time for the “teenager robots” we own to keep the pool clean since they’re costing us money every single day 😉
 
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My s200 look-alike (Warrior SE) was so fantastic I hate to even think about starting the new pool with anything else. But I only had her 3 yrs and it seems most of the problems happen 4-8. I'm thinking maybe simple is better and go with another s200 or even Nautilus. One thing I remember also when I purchased my Warrior SE is the SI "wifi" version cord replacement was over half the cost of a new unit. Not sure why I'd need an app either. I set mine up in automation mode and ran it off a smart plug. Work like a charm so long as I have automation mode. With a salt pool and a minimalist robot life is pretty simple. So that's my plan for now.
 
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Maytronics got back with me.. Seems the blue cable needs replaced after 5 months of use and the robot running about 30 times... WOW is all I can say... Emailed Margaret and we will see how they want to do this... :)
 
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Here is the kicker.. I just got off the phone with Seth from Marina pool and spa, They really are great... He said it was probably the white swivel.. Guess what, it was exactly that..

There are 2 O rings just inside the threads that are supposed to stop water intrusion.. There was no lube what so ever on the o rings.. There are 3 pins inside the swivel.. Mine only had 2 left as the 3rd middle one is completely corroded and about 1/2 inch shorter than the other 2... There was saltwater inside the swivel even after 4 days out of the pool..

I am going to take the new cable apart and put LOTS of Dielectric grease on the pins and then lube the O rings... Every spring I will do the same thing and it should stop any water intrusion from happening...

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You don’t want to put dielectric grease on pin connectors, that will make them not conduct. Dielectric grease is used to coat metal connections that have already made contact. You can certainly add the grease after the pins are connected but not before.

So this is what is bothering me now - the tight supply chain and limited inventories seem to be revealing substandard manufacturing processes. In other words, they’re doing sloppy work just to get product out the door

I think I’ve decided to go back to a suction cleaner for now. The robot market seems flooded with junk products and the prices are ridiculous. Maybe in a year or two I will go back to a robot but, as for now, it seems like throwing good money after bad at this point.
 
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I don't disagree with the design intent of the grease. But how are you supposed to add dielectric grease after connecting? I don't know of any connector that has a provision for that.

I've always added dielectric grease to all exterior automotive connectors if I open them up. Tail light bulb sockets, headlamp connectors, etc. Never had an issue with connectivity. On the contrary, some connectors that have not had dielectric grease in them, I have had corrosion issues that have destroyed the connector.

I believe that the connectors should mate tight enough to squeeze out any grease that may affect connectivity. If they don't the connector is bad and should be replaced. My $0.02.

I have taken the swivel connector apart a couple of times. I have never seen any sign of moisture in it and I did lube the o-rings prior to reassembling. I can't remember if they were lubed the first time I opened it up though.

--Jeff
 
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So this is what is bothering me now - the tight supply chain and limited inventories seem to be revealing substandard manufacturing processes. In other words, they’re doing sloppy work just to get product out the door
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I have noticed similar. Quality control went out the window everywhere. I've lost count of how many things I bought that had issues.
 
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I don't disagree with the design intent of the grease. But how are you supposed to add dielectric grease after connecting? I don't know of any connector that has a provision for that.

I've always added dielectric grease to all exterior automotive connectors if I open them up. Tail light bulb sockets, headlamp connectors, etc. Never had an issue with connectivity. On the contrary, some connectors that have not had dielectric grease in them, I have had corrosion issues that have destroyed the connector.

I believe that the connectors should mate tight enough to squeeze out any grease that may affect connectivity. If they don't the connector is bad and should be replaced. My $0.02.

I have taken the swivel connector apart a couple of times. I have never seen any sign of moisture in it and I did lube the o-rings prior to reassembling. I can't remember if they were lubed the first time I opened it up though.

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Jeff,

I don’t disagree with you. There are applications where dielectric grease can squeeze out enough to still allow for decent contact. But it can interfere with connectivity if there are large globs of it. I have seen both cases. My suggestion was to err on the side of caution and not use it but to rely on the silicone lube of the o-ring to ensure water tightness. I’d have to see the specific connector involved to know which way I would go regarding the application of the dielectric-grease. Definitely use lots of lube on the o-rings though, that’s your primary water barrier.
 
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The Pins roll on top of the metal rings.. within a couple turns the pins should have great contact with the metal and only have the dielectric grease surrounding them.. I use dielectric grease on all electrical contacts on my Christmas display including the cat 5 cables, plugs, end of plugs and every kind of connection in between.. I will gladly be the guinea pig and see what it does.. If it does not work it can easily be cleaned out.. If it no longer makes contact it will be really easy to see as it will not work.. :)
 
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I’ve been looking at Aiper’s offerings. Honestly, if they have good customer service I think they’ll end beating Dolphin because Maytronics is so stuck in siding with their distribution channel rather than the individual owner. They don’t want people price shopping or getting their stuff through e-commerce and I think it’s eventually going to do them in unless they change with the market.
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Email is slow to respond(Aiper) but calling them I got right through and answered. It seems the main issue will be belts wearing out according to reviews but they have replacements and I ordered a set to have handy. The robot I got must have been tested prior to shipment because it has a little moisture in the bag it was enclosed in.
 
I’m going back-to-future now -

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Everything old is new again … like bell-bottoms!

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I'm stoked!! Looking forward to setting it up this weekend.


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You will love it! I got mine with my new in ground pool about a year ago. "Flipper" does an amazing job of keeping our pool clean. Shortly after opening our new pool, maybe a couple of months or so, Flipper died. Did not power up at all. No lights on control would come on. Started a support ticket through the remote control phone app. Maytronics contacted me within hours of the submission. They asked a few questions, and had a replacement control unit (the part that the long cord attaches to) on its way to me that day. Arrived within a few days with a UPS return label for the defective unit. That fixed it and Flipper has not skipped a beat since, and we use the heck out of it. Our pool is heated so we use it year round. Runs several hours almost every day. Little guy looks a little sun faded but he works hard - always! Congrats!
 

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