issues with spa losing water- check valve problem?

thefisch

Well-known member
Mar 11, 2021
50
Tampa Bay
Pool Size
15000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Solaxx (Saltron) Resilience / Aquacomfort A5
My built-in spa appears to have two backflow prevention devices on the same return line. One is a check valve near the 3-way valves and the other is a plunger style port. See photos below. Anyone seen one of these plunger style ports before? I am having trouble finding them online.

20210609_182212.jpg

On occasion, the plunger style port does not retract fully (as shown in the photo) when the pump turns off - just a slight touch will make it retract. If I leave it sticking out, the water level in the spa drops several inches to match the pool level (and I get DE powder in the pool). So that tells me the in-line check valve does not appear to be working either. Perhaps the prior owner added the plunger style valve instead of replacing the failed check valve.

When the plunger style port does retract, I still lose about 1 or 2 inches of water from the spa overnight. That was not the case in prior seasons so perhaps the gasket on the plunger style port is getting worn out.

Not sure why there are two devices - they seem redundant. Is it better to have two devices like these on the same return line?

20210609_182205.jpg20210710_154638_HDR.jpg20210710_154647_HDR.jpg
 
That looks like Ortega Return Line Check Valve 1.5 inch White 010646, V20-339



I don't know why you have two CV's on your spa return line but they both seem to have problems.
 
  • Like
Reactions: thefisch
Thanks @ajw22 for the links.

I tried looking for replacements for my in-line check valve that is bad. Since it has unions, it would seem designed for easy replacement, but most of the ones I find are slip joints, not union. No idea which brand is on there now.

If there is no advantage to having two devices, which style would be preferred - the in-line kind or the port kind? The in-line kind seem more expensive although I haven't found a match for mine yet.
 
The only writing I could make out on the old in-line check valve is made in Canada and a flow arrow.

Fisch,

I believe that you are correct that the previous owner did not want to replace the bad original check valve and just added the second one in the spa.

Thanks,

Jim R.
That sounds about right given the other issues we inherited. But I can see how the plunger style check valve is more cost effective. And perhaps they couldn't find the exact size for replacement at the local parts store.
 
I think I found out the make of the in-line check valve is Praher. They make their parts in Canada and the flow arrow design is exactly the same as mine. Doesn't seem like available from many sellers online - could only find one - Praher 1-1/2" Double Union 2lb. Teflon Spring Check Valve (#152-CVC-200CR)
page 22 of their catalog https://www.praherplastics.ca/Catalogue-PDFs/Praher-2021-Pool-Catalogue.pdf

Even though there is a union connection, they don't see to sell just the valve insert to replace an existing one. Can these be repaired?

What's the advantage of union connections if they don't sell a replacement or the dimensions are unique so you can't put in another brand without redoing the plumbing?
 
Buy a complete new CV and cannibalize it for whatever parts you need. There are lots of valves where the complete valve is less expensive then replacement parts.
 
Thread Status
Hello , This thread has been inactive for over 60 days. New postings here are unlikely to be seen or responded to by other members. For better visibility, consider Starting A New Thread.