Project in SE PA, bought a foreclosure w A&S pool

Filling the pool is coming along nice and uneventful so far. I'm guessing another day or two and the water level will be hight enough to attempt opening the pool myself. Looked quickly last night and found where all but 1 of the plugs go in the pump (2), booster pump for Polaris (1 tiny little threaded plug) and 2 in the heater (have to remove a panel to get to the one side) so that leaves me with finding where the one remaining plug should go.

Forceast is not so good for the week so I am in no immediate rush to open the pool. Shooting for next weekend if I am still motivated to open it solo.
 
Look at all your PVC pipes a lot of times the pipe itself has a drain plug. Might be on the bottom part where you can't see it and the most common place to find it is in the output of the heater.
 
Had two different companies out to look at the drainage and see what suggestions they have to address the rain water coming through the dirt area and dumping onto the paver patio and then going into the pool. Honestly it's a 10-15' section of the pavers that are pitched incorrectly and send the water to the coping and skimmer and right into the pool. You can look back in this thread and see the pics.

So.....first guy said the entire problem is the pavers not being graded correctly. Entire patio needs to be pulled, base corrected, regraded and then put back. If I use the existing pavers it's $35,000 and if I want new pavers $53,000!

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Had two different companies out to look at the drainage and see what suggestions they have to address the rain water coming through the dirt area and dumping onto the paver patio and then going into the pool. Honestly it's a 10-15' section of the pavers that are pitched incorrectly and send the water to the coping and skimmer and right into the pool. You can look back in this thread and see the pics.

So.....first guy said the entire problem is the pavers not being graded correctly. Entire patio needs to be pulled, base corrected, regraded and then put back. If I use the existing pavers it's $35,000 and if I want new pavers $53,000!

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For a 10'x15' section? Wow you must be rich like all us pool owners! How fast did you kick him off your property? ROFL! I would do this myself. I have done paver driveways before it is not hard at all. This is a weekend or so.
 
Had two different companies out to look at the drainage and see what suggestions they have to address the rain water coming through the dirt area and dumping onto the paver patio and then going into the pool. Honestly it's a 10-15' section of the pavers that are pitched incorrectly and send the water to the coping and skimmer and right into the pool. You can look back in this thread and see the pics.

So.....first guy said the entire problem is the pavers not being graded correctly. Entire patio needs to be pulled, base corrected, regraded and then put back. If I use the existing pavers it's $35,000 and if I want new pavers $53,000!

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John -How large is the patio area? You have other options like running a perimeter drain, etc. I could always give you the number of the guys we used from Triton landscaping, they did a nice job and were relatively affordable. They did about 1800 sq foot of pavers for us plus stairs, retaining walls, etc and it was no where near that cost.
 
OUCH!!! SO ask him this.............so we re-pitched it........how big will the pitch have to be to keep the water from flowing in to the pool? To me it looks like it is ALREADY pitched so doing a bigger pitch will help how?

The rain water HAS to go some where once it shows up.............to me if you could lessen the amount of water that comes down off the planters then the pitch already there has a chance.

I remember someone did some work with the planter but am too lazy to go back and look. Me? Here are the steps I would take:
-take out all of the dirt and stuff in the planters for a start.

-put something water proof on the inside part of the rocks (not sure what but we can find someone who will know what to use)

-Cut a large hole (4" round) in the long wall right by the steps.

-drainage pipe with holes in it and the sock thing around it to help keep dirt out of it. One end will peek out of the large hole. You can do two holes and pipes if you think that is what is needed to handle the amount of water that flows down to that area.

I would leave that area open for a couple of storms so you can see how it works and if there is anything else that needs to be done. We will work on making it pretty again later.

Now is there ANY why you can add a small something to keep a lot of the rain from even flowing into that area? I see the rock river area they put in. That was a start but not enough to keep that pretty pool from being a mess :(

Lets look at deck drain ideas now...........I bet that would be a big help for the water does get past the drainage pipe in the planter area. I just did search and there are a LOT of them. I would look for one you can take the top off of so you can clean it out as needed.

I bet someone could cut the deck with their big saw to put in the deck drain for a LOT cheaper than that other idea. The deck drain gives the water someplace to go BEFORE it gets even close to the pool.

Thoughts after reading this?

Kim:kim:
 
Guy #1 wants nothing to do with your job, that is why the price is so high.
Hopefully guy #2 has some better ideas.
Kim is correct. More money should be spent on the "correct" solution to stopping the water before it gets to the patio. How did you fix the water ending up going into the house. From the latest pics it still looks like there is water running very close to the house.
Do you know where that gutter downspout drain goes?
Are the gutters all clear and working?
Can you give a few pics from other side of pool looking at back of house?
To be able to give proper advice it would be a huge help if you could show on a sketch or pic exactly where the water is running during a storm, starting from the driveway to where it runs off the patio.

From previous pics it still looks like water comes off driveway and goes down walk.

The big question is how happy are you with the current patio? Are you thinking of changing it anyway or would you be happy with it if you could install some drains and make things work.
 
Finally have a good plan and work will begin next week hopefully. This should eliminate all water/dirt coming from the area before the pavers. I'm still a little concerned because any water that gets on the pavers from rain travels right into the pool. The water bags have done a great job of keeping water out of the pool but we haven't had a killer rainstorm since I put them there.

On a side note, I absolutely hate the Polaris 390 cleaner I bought last spring. Doesn't reach all areas, spends 25% of the time on its side and overall does a terrible job of cleaning the bottom. Is a robot in my future?

Lines for the basketball court will be painted soon and work is full speed ahead on the house. Lots of plumbing and electrical going on now so it's nothing glamorous.
 

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Plan is 100% water management, regrading areas, adding drains, connecting to existing drainage pipes and then getting it all very far away from the house in the woods. Also will flatten the water retaining area as its doing absolutely nothing anyway. If after all that the rain water falling on the pavers makes the pool dirty then he will pull up the area effected and regrade all the pavers in that area.

PM me the info on the robot because I spent 2hrs vacuuming the pool yesterday and it looked bad today. Let the Polaris do its thing for a few hours this afternoon and it made zero difference.
 
Lots of work going on in the house and it finally feels like the redo is officially underway. Grading and water drainage issue work should be starting this week, hopefully.

Lines on the basketball are complete. I needed this court about 20-30 years ago, it's too big for me at this age!

Will be ordering the Warrior SE tomorrow.
 

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I see the court is already being to good use!!! FUN TIMES!

I can't wait to see the done house and pool area!!! Here is hoping it all goes as planned and does what you need it to do to keep that pretty pool pretty!

Kim:kim:
 
Update is long overdue! Full speed ahead on the house, estimating 6-8 weeks till completion. Big part of the time will be the install, sanding and finishing of the hardwood floors and then painting the entire house. Plumbing fixtures have arrived and we are on to picking the lighting.

Drainage issue 90% complete, finishing up next week with topsoil, sod and some other odds and ends. The work was impressive to say the least, 15 guys, 1 bobcat, 1 dingo (?) tons of pipe, dirt, and a solid 12 hr day.

Here are a few pics of the progress. Completely different layout for master bath, closed off 5th bedroom to make a walk in closet, and the total redo of the kitchen.
 

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The house updates are looking great, John! Can't wait to come check it out when it's finished! Football party scheduled for Sept/Oct???
 
Been a while but I'm still here and the house renovation is still ongoing. Only used the pool a handful of times this summer and it's scheduled to be closed next week. Having the pool open was a good opportunity to see the water flow on the property and see how the pool was getting dirty. The previous work in the early summer helped a lot but the pavers by the waterfall and skimmer were still pitched right into the pool. So any water getting on to the pavers was going in the pool and what didn't go into the pool went towards the house. Major PITA. This called for idea/solution #2. Run a drain parallel to the wall and all the way to the house and place it as close to the coping and pitch the entire area towards the drain and then pipe it way off the backyard area. So far so good but it's only been completed for about a week now. Pool water is clean after a few storms which is a huge victory.

Having everything 100% done before moving in is not realistic at this point so we are going to finish the basement at a later date but asap after we move which should be in less than 2 weeks. Took way longer than expected and of course over budget.
 

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