Gas heater for intex AGP?

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I should have known there reference material already available on the site! Looks like the bypass is definitely in order, seems easy enough to plumb in while I'm at it. Thank you both for the help!!
 
ajw22 said:
A Heater Bypass - Further Reading is good to have.

Low pH water is what damages the heater core.

Chlorine at SLAM levels and even some above will not damage a heater. Low pH is the killer to heaters. Not other chemicals, high or low.
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If I could trouble you for a bit more advice it would be greatly appreciated. I have done quite a bit of reading up on bonding and in particular bonding my particular intex pool. I have come up with the plan to run the bonding loop around the pool and tie in the water and the heater. The pump is double insulated and should not be tied in. The pool frame itself seems a bit impractical to try and properly bond. I'm not looking for code compliance but I am seeking to make the pool as safe as possible. We have a wooden deck and plastic ladder. Any advice you care to offer?
 
Here is a picture for reference. The red mark is the heater location. All the equipment is along that alley. I also read the AC did not need to be bonded with the pool equipment. Thoughts?
 

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I agree. With that said I was reading a thread last night that I believe you were a part of. The poster had the same pool as mine and I believe the conclusion was that in order to properly bond this particular frame the 4 top rails would need to be tied to one of the legs and all legs would need to be tied into the loop. Does that sound familiar? Thanks for the responses by the way, you're a stickler and I like that about you.
 
sammckin said:
I agree. With that said I was reading a thread last night that I believe you were a part of. The poster had the same pool as mine and I believe the conclusion was that in order to properly bond this particular frame the 4 top rails would need to be tied to one of the legs and all legs would need to be tied into the loop. Does that sound familiar? Thanks for the responses by the way, you're a stickler and I like that about you.
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I reply to many and don't remember that one specifically.

Since you are trying to be as safe as possible and not to any code or inspection I say do as much as you can. The problem with bonding to the AGP supports is rustproofing any holes you make so that the bond point does not become a rust failure point. The manufacturers don't help by providing bonding attach points..

Thanks for he compliment. :cool:
 
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ajw22 said:
I replay to many and don't remember that one specifically.

Since you are trying to be as safe as possible and not to any code or inspection I say do as much as you can. The problem with bonding to the AGP supports is rustproofing any holes you make so that the bond point does not become a rust failure point. The manufacturers don't help by providing bonding attach points..

Thanks for he compliment. :cool:
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I think i could use a threaded insert to make quick work of attaching to the legs, like you said I would create more rust issues, I could probably mitigate that with the proper paint and silicone. If the kids use the pool as much as they did last summer we will likely upgrade to a permanent agp at some point. The quicker this one rusts the quicker I can upgrade! This was really a test pool for us.
 

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denhajm said:
Isn't it most important to bond the pool water? That's what these fittings are for: Amazon.com : Perma-Cast PB2008 Water Bonding Fitting PB-2008 : Garden & Outdoor These can be mounted in a skimmer or piping as close to the pool as you can. The outside receives a large copper bonding wire.
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Yeah I was looking at a similar device that was actually part of a union that could be plumbed in. Trouble is I have the cheapo over the wall skimmer. I was considering plumbing it into the return or perhaps the supply side.
Check this out at Amazon.com
Custom 25810-850-000 Econ Union with Stainless Steel Pool Bond Amazon.com : Custom 25810-850-000 Econ Union with Stainless Steel Pool Bond : Garden & Outdoor

Or I could man up and cut in a proper skimmer.
 
denhajm said:
Here are some pictures of my setup--I used this plumbing for 3 summers until the pool frame rusted too badly to continue using. I'll admit embarrassment over the weediness of the pump area--that was fixed last year to a clean gravel area--but you get the idea. Isolation valves are your friends--they let you work on things without draining the pool. Also, I put this piping away during the winter, so I appreciate the ability to disassemble it with the various threaded connections.

Thanks for the pictures I'm trying to decide which heater to purchase for an Intex 15' round, I noticed the bonding port do you bond the heater and pool?
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Hey how the heater working out? Im excited that I bought one with our pool package.. cant wait just to get the pool up.
Do you just set the temp and run it 24/7? Or do you use it when needed? My thought was to set ours at 80 at all times which I guess our pump would always run
 
kennywayne34 said:
Hey how the heater working out? Im excited that I bought one with our pool package.. cant wait just to get the pool up.
Do you just set the temp and run it 24/7? Or do you use it when needed? My thought was to set ours at 80 at all times which I guess our pump would always run
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Just got it installed yesterday and its working great. Pool is 88 right now. My pump has to be running to run the heater so I don't think we will run 24/7. Until I figure out how to trigger the pump to come on with the heater I will just set the thermostat and run it at nigh with the pump, then if we need more I kick it on during the day. Im still figuring out the best way to work it.
 
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