Intellicenter Schedule Question

[superskaterxes]

Hi All,

i am having an issue that i cant figure out. My current schedule is as follows:

Pool group is just Pool + Salt generator (on an aux circuit)
sense read is for when i turn the pump speed up to read parameter better with my sense S2

the problem i am having is that when 12:30 comes around, everything shuts off. I have tried to adjust times up or down a minute for some overlap and still no dice. When i go from pool group to sense read, the pump does speed up (meaning whats supposed to happen, does happen), but when it should go back to normal speed at 1230, everything just goes off. What am i missing?

 

[Jimrahbe]

SS,

Are you wanting to shut off the SWCG, when you using your 'S2' ?? (No clue what S2 is... )

If not, I would schedule Pool Group from 10 am until 7 pm. Leave Sense Read scheduled from 11:30 to 12:30 pm..

The key is that when the pump sees two or more speeds, it will always run the fastest one..

There is just no reason to overlap by 1 minute.

Not sure if that will fix your issue, but worth trying..

Also make sure your egg-timers are set to the default of 12 hours..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[superskaterxes]

SS,

Are you wanting to shut off the SWCG, when you using your 'S2' ?? (No clue what S2 is... )

If not, I would schedule Pool Group from 10 am until 7 pm. Leave Sense Read scheduled from 11:30 to 12:30 pm..

The key is that when the pump sees two or more speeds, it will always run the fastest one..

There is just no reason to overlap by 1 minute.

Not sure if that will fix your issue, but worth trying..

Also make sure your egg-timers are set to the default of 12 hours..

Thanks,

Jim R.

Jim,

Thanks for your reply. I originally had my schedule setup as you said in your message but i experienced a different problem where my SWCG would turn off after the sense read schedule ended at 1230. Im thinking i should just hardwire the SWCG to a breaker and not put it on a aux switch so its on all the time.

this is the Sense S2 =D

WaterGuru SENSE - Smart Pool Monitoring System

The SENSE device makes caring for your pool easy with our automated monitoring system and mobile app to be informed in real-time.

waterguru.com

works incredibly well but requires a minimum amount of flow for the readings to be accurate. I have found that if i ramp up my pump speed during the time its taking its reading, the values are more accurate which is why i created the above schedule.

 

[Jimrahbe]

SS,

The SWCG MUST be wired so that it gets its AC power from the load side of the pump/filter relay.. This is not a suggestion, it is a requirement to prevent the cell from blowing up if the flow switch fails..

It says this in the SWCG manual, as well as a sticker on the SWCG's transformer.

It seems to me that you are making things much harder than they have to be..

The SWCG should only run if you are in the Pool mode or the Spa mode..

Keep in mind that just because your Circuit "Name" has the word "Pool" in it, does not make it the Pool Circuit.

As an example... If you have two Circuits... Pool and Pool High..

The Pool circuit will turn on the pump/filter relay..
The Pool High circuit will NOT..

I like running the SWCG anytime my pump is running.. This means that I have the Pool Circuit scheduled for the entire time I have the pump running.. I personally run 24/7, mostly at a low rpm, for less than $20 bucks a month.. I like making a little chlorine all the time and skimming all the time. Also like the look of my pool when there is a little motion to the water.. It also makes programming dirt simple.. I like simple, as I am simple...

I am not a fan of 'Group' Circuits in general if they are not needed.. Tell me what you are trying to do, that needs group circuits.

Who installed or wired your IntelliCenter??

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[superskaterxes]

im sorry if i did not mention this before, but i am not using the pentair SWCG, i have a circupool external version. I have a circuit group that turns on the SWCG aux relay whenever the pool is on (this is all thats in my "pool group".

my overall goal is to ramp the pump speed up between 1130 and 1230 to 3450RPM and then ramp back down until 7pm.

i installed my own panel, im a control system engineer and have been designing, installing and programming industrial PLC control panels for 15 years so this was pretty basic to me, the user interface and program is just not intuitive.

 

[Jimrahbe]

the user interface and program is just not intuitive.

S,

That is because they write their manuals in a foreign language called "Pentair"...

Sometimes, knowing too much is worse that knowing nothing...

If you know control systems then you might be disappointed with how the IntelliCenter does things, as it is sometime not very logical in the way it operates.

No matter what SWCG you have it should only get AC power from the load side of the pump/filter relay.. They all can blow up if the flow switch or sensor goes bad..

If the cell was wired to the load side of the pump/filter relay, then to turn on the cell you would just have to be in the pool mode, no group needed.

As an example...

Pool schedule.. 10 am until 7 pm (Pool circuit set to 1500 rpm) Pump/Filter relay closed and cell running..
Sense schedule.. 11:30 am until 12:30 pm.. (Sense set to 3450 rpm) Pump speed increases at 11:30 and decrease at 12:30.

The above schedule will do exactly what you want..

I assume you know this, but just want to make sure...

A schedule just turns a Circuit on and off... If you want the pump to run at a specific speed, when the circuit is on, you need to assign a speed to that circuit.

If the pump sees two or more speeds at the same time, it will always run the faster speed.. This is why the above schedule example works the way it does.

What kind of pump do you have???

Please let me know if any of this does not make sense and I'll try again.

Thanks,


Jim R.