Help "Configuring" Screenlogic2 for two pumps

[ejhasan]

Hi all,

I honestly couldn't figure some of these things without all your help, so thank you in advance.

I wanted to see if someone could help me essentially configure the settings on Screenlogic2 for my Easytouch 8. I have downloaded the "Screenlogic Configurator" on my PC and am using that. Some general or specific guidance would be appreciated.

So I have two Intelliflo VS pumps. Pump 1 is plumbed to send water to either the filter/heater/salt cell/pool return jets or be switched (with a pentair actuator valve) to send water to two swim jets. Pump 2 is plumbed to either send water to a waterfall or to send water to two additional swim jets. (i.e., the goal is to have 4 swim jets total powered by two pumps). There is no Spa.

I am trying to figure out the best way to "Configure Screenlogic." Would it make sense to essentially rename my "Spa" to "swim jets (from pump 1)" and just put the comm cable for the actuator valve for Pump 1 in the "Return valve" slot on the comm board? Or should I just disable the Spa and configure two separate features for the swim jets? And then hook the comm cables for the actuators to Valve A and Valve B on the comm board? As you can see I am a little lost. Some guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!

Swimjets:

Pump 1 (goes either pool return jets or two swim jets):


Pump 2 (goes either waterfall or other two swim jets):

 

[Jimrahbe]

ej,

I would use the A and B...

Then you would assign A to a circuit you could call Swim Jet 1 and B to Swim Jet 2

Then you would assign a pump speed for Swim jet 1 to pump #1 and Swim Jet 2 to pump #2.

When you push the icon labeled as Swim Jet 1, the A valve would turn sending water to the Swim Jet and the pump would go to whatever speed you assinged.

I assume those are the only two automated valves you have???

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Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ejhasan]

ej,

I would use the A and B...

Then you would assign A to a circuit you could call Swim Jet 1 and B to Swim Jet 2

Then you would assign a pump speed for Swim jet 1 to pump #1 and Swim Jet 2 to pump #2.

When you push the icon labeled as Swim Jet 1, the A valve would turn sending water to the Swim Jet and the pump would go to whatever speed you assinged.

I assume those are the only two automated valves you have???

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Thanks,

Jim R.

Thank you @Jimrahbe , you are always so helpful. No other automated valves (except for Intellilevel, but I think I am just going to not hook this up because I've heard it has a lot of trouble? I am also already using Valve A and Valve B on the comm board, not sure where or how I would hook the intellievel on there? Not sure if you have experience with it?

Ignoring the Intellilevel for now: I think I have things setup correctly, however when I click "swimjet1" as a feature, it is turning Valve A (as intended), but it is turning off Pump1 rather than setting it to 3450 RPM. Any idea why? Anything else you would change? I attached pictures of my config. Thank you sir

 

[Jimrahbe]

ej,

Do both of your IntelliFlo pumps get constant AC power??

Do both pump's display "Display not Active" when in AUTO?

Not the cause of your problem, but to run the Pool Circuit 24/7, it should be 8 am to 8 am...

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ejhasan]

ej,

Do both of your IntelliFlo pumps get constant AC power??

Do both pump's display "Display not Active" when in AUTO?

Not the cause of your problem, but to run the Pool Circuit 24/7, it should be 8 am to 8 am...

Thanks,

Jim R.

Hi Jim

Do both of your IntelliFlo pumps get constant AC power?? yes

Do both pump's display "Display not Active" when in AUTO? yes

Thanks for you help

 

[Jimrahbe]

ej,

Does each pump have a different Com port address inside the pump??

The default is #1, which I would assign to the main pool pump (Pump #1)

This means that pump #2 needs to have an address different than the default of #1.

To set the pump's com port address, you need to go into the Service mode and use the pump's display and menu..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ejhasan]

ej,

Does each pump have a different Com port address inside the pump??

The default is #1, which I would assign to the main pool pump (Pump #1)

This means that pump #2 needs to have an address different than the default of #1.

To set the pump's com port address, you need to go into the Service mode and use the pump's display and menu..

Thanks,

Jim R.

Hi @Jimrahbe. Yes Pump1 is assigned to Pool Address 1 and Pump2 assigned to Pool Address 2.

Still haven't been able to figure it out. I deleted all the schedules to try and trouble shoot. Essentially if I take the Filter/Pool pump (Pump1) and hit "swimjets1" it moves the actuator valve appropriately but turns off the pump rather than run the pump at max speed which is what I have it set for. (the Pool button actually stays green, but the actual pump stops, which is not good because the system thinks the Pool pump is running and so the SWG continues to run despite the pump actually being off).

Does anyone have any ideas? I am essentially wanting to be able to have the Filter (Pool) pump actuator move, turn off the salt cell, turn off the heater, and run the pump at max speed. I thought I had it setup correctly, it's just not doing it. Maybe I need to call Pentair? You figure Pentair would make their automation simplier to setup = /

Thanks...

 

[Jimrahbe]

ej,

I think the best way to troubleshoot this is just one pump at a time...

Let's start with your main pool pump. With your swimjet1 off and the Pool circuit on, I assume the pump is running fine.. at the speed you have assigned 1800 RPM..

And Pool is scheduled for 8 am until 8 am (24 hours)

Then pushing the Swimjet 1 icon, should do nothing to the pump other than increase the pump's speed. So change the pump speed from 3450 to 2100 and see what happens.. It could be the pump see's the resistance to flow at 3450 an issue.. ??? For now let's just see if it runs at 2100 RPM.

You might also check the "Pump off when the valves move" option.. If on, then the pump would shut of until the valve moves.. It just shuts off for a fixed amount of time.. not sure how long, but long enough for the valve to move.. I'd guess 15 to 30 seconds.. I never set that option on...

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ejhasan]

ej,

I think the best way to troubleshoot this is just one pump at a time...

Let's start with you main pool pump. With your swimjet1 off and the Pool circuit on, I assume the pump is running fine.. at the speed you have assigned 1800 RPM..

And Pool is schedules for 8 am until 8 am (24 hours)

Then pushing the Swimjet 1 should do nothing to the pump other than increase the pump's speed. So change the pump speed from 3450 to 2100 and see what happens.. It could be the pump see's the resistance to flow at 3450 an issue.. ??? For now let's just see if it runs at 2100 RPM.

You might also check the "Pump off when the valves move" option.. If on, then the pump would shut of until the valve moves.. It just shuts off for a fixed amount of time.. not sure how long, but long enough for the valve to move..

Thanks,

Jim R.

I think I got it! The pump on it's display had a Max RPM set below the 3450, so when the control panel tried to set it to 3450 it would just turn the pump off. You figure there would be a popup warning or something for this! I feel like I'm using 1995 software, lol. Thanks for your help AGAIN

 

[ejhasan]

@Jimrahbe Now the issue I am having is that when I hit swimjet1 it diverts all the water from heater/salt cell to swimjet1, however it keeps "Pool" running, which means the SWG and heater are still running but all water is being diverted away from heater/SWG. I guess I can make sure to turn the Heater off and SWG off each time, but it seems like a mistake waiting to happen. Do you know if there is a way to automatically turn off the heater and SWG when "swimjet1" is hit? Thanks for your help...

 

[Jimrahbe]

Do you know if there is a way to automatically turn off the heater and SWG when "swimjet1" is hit? Thanks for your help...

E,

There is NOT...

What you have is a plumbing issue and not an EasyTouch issue.. A SWCG should never be plumbed into any pool where water can by-pass the cell.. The valve that selects the swimjet should have been after the salt cell.

For now, after you turn on the Swimjet 1, if you push the pump/filter relay button, it should turn off the pump/filter relay and the salt cell should shut off, if it is wired correctly.. Then, before you shut off Swimjet 1, push the F Button again and the system will go back into the pool mode, then shut off Swimjet 1..

I suspect there is a way to jury-rig something, but I will need to think about it.

Running the heater without water is not much of an issue, as it will just shut off.. Unlike the salt cell which has the unlikely, but potential, of exploding!!!

Another option would be to replace one of your standard DPST Aux relays with a DPDT relay.. This would allow you to route the AC power to the SWCG Transformer through the Normally Closed (NC) contacts.. Then when you turn on Swimjet 1, the relay would open the NC contacts and shut off the Cell and Heater if you wanted.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Jimrahbe]

E,

I just reread your post.. You have the SWCG before the heater??????

Show us some pics of the plumbing..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ejhasan]

E,

I just reread your post.. You have the SWCG before the heater??????

Show us some pics of the plumbing..

Thanks,

Jim R.

Hi Jim. No. It goes pump --> filter --> heater --> SWG --> pool jets.

Unfortunately I do not think there is room to move the actuator to after the SWG.




I was thinking about caming the actuator valve so that even after it switches to swimjet1 some water would still be going down the filter --> heater --> SWG --> pool jets route. Might be the eastiest solution?

Thanks Jim!