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I had a Panny Vero Plasma that 10 years later when the HDMIs blew in a thunderstorm, it was still holding its own and most new TVs were a step down. I ended up spending a skootch under $3k for a Sony 4K that had a great picture. 2 years later I wanted a basement TV and got a BJs Vizio. Being streaming/gaming only, it's picture is better than the still relevant Sony on CATV. I have since picked up 2 more of the Vizios. The Sony still wins if I stream on it, but not by nearly enough to justify the price difference like it did 3 or 4 years ago.
 
Probably Samsung 65" QLED/120Hz. Maybe the "Neo QLED".
I did quite a bit of research when buying. The Samsung QLED seemed to be the best value. I purchased an 82" Q70 a few years ago and a 65" Q85 for my son last year. The "8" series have better backlight technology and a faster processor, but the average viewer might never notice a difference. I really like the way the set integrates with all the streaming apps. No need for a Fire Stick on these TVs. I'm real happy with both sets.

The thing with TVs is you don't know what you're missing until you upgrade. I was happy with my previous set 60" budget set, but was amazed by the difference after buying the new TV. Follow SWG advice...go big!
 
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When I researched TVs earlier in the year, and looked at many side by side, there was no chance I could justify the cost of a true OLED panel especially when most of the TV we watch is stuff from the 90s and early 00s. The small amount of modern 4K content we watch looks great to me
Try watching last nights episode of House of the dragon though an Apple TV on a regular LCD. Couldn’t see a thing other than a dark screen for about a quarter of the episode. It’s like they expect everyone to have OLED’s or something. Also I think the Apple TV auto calibration thing with the phone might just make things worse. Also, can we not get flat matt screens anymore? Seems like they are all super glossy. I have two very old 1080p LCDs I keep because they are under 55 inches and have a matt finish.
 
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Wow great deal!

 
I hate streaming services. They ruined the video industry. Like I said and others once you have a larger screen especially a quality panel you really start to see all the artifacts. Apple TV sucks for video performance. Roku. Firesticks. all those things just suck. You still can't beat physical media over a quality player like long gone Oppo. Best players ever made. I cringe when we go install a 10K plus projector with beautiful audio and then the customer says thier main source is going to be a streaming device. People just don't buy physical media anymore. I do. Friends of mine do. Certain customers of ours do, but streaming is easy. I use my Apple TV nightly. Watching the new lord of the ring series on amazon is almost unwatchable on my OLED for dark scenes. But it's easy. On weekends when I'm home alone I pop in something thats physical media to enjoy a true picture but again that's 5% of my time anymore.

You really can't beat anything from Samsung in that 8000 series of anything.

OLED has really come down. Man when I think about Pioneers Elite panels. . . 5 grand for a 50" and I think the 60's were 8 grand? Nothing came close except when Panny took the torch when Pioneer abandoned Elite. But when OLED came out the plasma fans had something to finally look at again.
 
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That TV is reconditioned.Check out Costco. They extend the manufacturer's warranty. Right now, some TVs offer a free 3-year Protection Program through Allstate.

[The current promotion of 2 yr Sony/Costco and 3 yr Allstate warranty provides 5 years of warranty coverage]
 
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I still have my 60" Pioneer Kuro 9G. I have an 85" Sony LED, did my research on both tv's at AVSForum.com. You can find so much info there in their forum on any TV you probably would even think about. I agree with JimJim about streaming vs physicall media. A blu ray or ultra 4k disc with lossless sound or real Atmos is unreal on a great display whether panel or projector. But most people could care less so it all depends on what you really want. Again the AVSForum.com is unbelievable site.
 
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That TV is reconditioned.Check out Costco. They extend the manufacturer's warranty. Right now, some TVs offer a free 3-year Protection Program through Allstate.

[The current promotion of 2 yr Sony/Costco and 3 yr Allstate warranty provides 5 years of warranty coverage]

Dang yeah it is. Ah well. I am cool with the QLED. Hopefully a sale on Black Friday or Cyber Monday. It'll be our "family" gift. I'm not a Costco member.
 
Again the AVSForum.com is unbelievable site.
They are my origin story. I was new there when my $500 blu-ray player died just out of warranty and Newdude seemed fitting at the time. A member PM'd me and ran through the usual troubleshooting steps and after swearing me to secrecy, shipped me a brand new player, no proof of purchase or request to send back the broken one. Someone high enough up the Panasonic chain was a member as an enthusiast, not a company rep and hooked me up as an internet stranger.

Everytime I found somewhere else to play since, well, I was the Newdude and all, so it fit again. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I have 2. 55” sceptre TV I got an Walmart for $250 and I honestly don’t see how anything could look much better.
I have had them for a few years, have one outside under my pool area and one inside and live them.
I use a Roku but really only watch college football :)
 
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I’m late to the party but I only use LG OLED and absolutely love them the 77” in the living room is great for weekend sports without any blurring and equally good for movies and television. That said the Sony OLED is also a great choice. The only downside is if your viewing area is exceptionally bright which holds true for any OLED. In which case I’d recommend the Samsung QLED, any of the higher end series will suffice and be a nice addition.
 
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I’m late to the party but I only use LG OLED and absolutely love them the 77” in the living room is great for weekend sports without any blurring and equally good for movies and television. That said the Sony OLED is also a great choice. The only downside is if your viewing area is exceptionally bright which holds true for any OLED. In which case I’d recommend the Samsung QLED, any of the higher end series will suffice and be a nice addition.
The LG is an awesome set, almost picked that up myself, I just wanted bigger like 85". Was torn over that decision.
 
The LG is an awesome set, almost picked that up myself, I just wanted bigger like 85". Was torn over that decision.
The LG OLED’s are weird sizing, I think it’s 77” and then 83” if I remember correctly. The price difference in my opinion wasn’t worth the size at the time of purchase but that may have changed. It’s been a year or so
 
I treat TV’s like they are disposable. I generally buy the cheapest one that does not suck. They are going to be way better than anything expensive I would have bought 3-5 years ago. I have a 65” LG in my office that replaced a 58” that failed about a couple of years ago. Spent $600 on it so not really invested in it. Bought the same model in 75” for the family room for about $1000 and at some point will rotate that one outside and replace the inside one.

Whatever I buy 3 years from now for $1000 will be better than the $3000 set I would buy today.
 
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I treat TV’s like they are disposable. I generally buy the cheapest one that does not suck. They are going to be way better than anything expensive I would have bought 3-5 years ago. I have a 65” LG in my office that replaced a 58” that failed about a couple of years ago. Spent $600 on it so not really invested in it. Bought the same model in 75” for the family room for about $1000 and at some point will rotate that one outside and replace the inside one.

Whatever I buy 3 years from now for $1000 will be better than the $3000 set I would buy today.
That last line definitely isn’t true but everybody has an opinion
 
I see TV like cars. Do you really need a GT500 mustang to drive to Kroger :)

But like it’s been said everybody has an opinion :)
Like a pool, lots of folks love automation, I can’t see paying a ton of money to turn a valve and turn my heater on when it takes me 90 seconds 🤣
 
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I treat TV’s like they are disposable. I generally buy the cheapest one that does not suck.
I see TV like cars. Do you really need a GT500 mustang to drive to Kroger 🤣
My 4K 3D HDR laser projector cost more than my car. But I I enjoy it more than my car.
 
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Everything is relative.

Different strokes different folks. I spent more on framing and isolating my theatre than some spend on a whole addition. It’s my passion. Well and side job for 20 plus years now.

I’ll spend any amount of money on fishing gear but won’t go for air on on other things.

With TVs you used to get what you paid for. The laws of deminishing returns on panels is getting tighter and tighter. Like I said above my pioneer elites are 15 years one now and they hands down blow most panels out of the water still. Did they cost. Back then. Crazy. but they held up like champs and still are. I buy cheaper for areas I’m not concerned with. But for my main viewing areas in my home I want a quality panel cause again. My hobby.

Now audio is a different story anymore. My money is amps causexthey are hopefully forever purchases but the processor hooked up to them is the flavor of the year cause all it has to do is decode. My player takes caise of the video and audio quality. I don’t get into DAC’s when it comes to movies. You need proper setup and proper headroom for spl’s. My days of chilling and listening to 2 channel audio are over.
 
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