1. Cant Shock w/o getting Iron Stains & 2. Sodium Bicarb Making Water Milky

[mknauss]

How are you confirming the water had copper in it?

 

[kimray]

You might want to start another post to discuss the copper issue. Are you on well water? Have you added chemicals that have added copper? We have some very knowledgeable experts on copper issues that could help. See below for starters.

Copper in Pool Water - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Already did

 

[kimray]

Almost guaranteed all the pool store stuff they were selling you wasn’t needed. And the stuff you do need cane be purchased much cheaper from places like Walmart or Home Depot. Are you using algaecides with copper in them or do you have an idea where the copper is coming from? Copper and iron are the only tests what TFP recommends getting done at a pool store.

No idea.. I have a post going about the copper though

 

[kimray]

How are you confirming the water had copper in it?

see original post. first was pool store result of a copper and iron test, second is i can see it... my liner, steps and skimmer all turn terracotta every time I shock. I treat for the metal and it clears up.

 

[kimray]

see original post. first was pool store result of a copper and iron test, second is i can see it... my liner, steps and skimmer all turn terracotta every time I shock. I treat for the metal and it clears up.

oh and of course the water get orangey too

 

[Bperry]

oh and of course the water get orangey too

Are you sure it’s not iron?

 

[mknauss]

orange is not copper. It is iron. Your fill water has iron in it.

 

[rcs29]

Its a bit more than I was hoping for honestly, although I may not have a choice at this rate
I mean I literally have not been in the pool for 2 seasons due to issues. Its either green (algae) or terra cotta orangey (copper). I get one issue solved then the other comes and so on. I almost ready to take a good kitchen knife to the whole pool and just be done! LOL

Since my pool was built and I started the TFP method (late April) I think I've spent $75 total on CYA (stabilizer), MA and liquid chlorine. When I had an AGP and before I adopted this method I would have spent an easy $300-$400 at this point in the season. Add the $75 - $100 on test kit = you get it. Honestly at this point I don't anticipate having to spend any more than $20 (MA)on chemicals bc my SWG takes care of the rest. I used to spend probably $700 or more/per year on BS. Now I expect to spend $100-$200/year on simply MA, CYA and a little chlorine (compensation only). Math is simple if it's basic math. I was never good at math and this equation is simple. If $ is tight just start with the Taylor K-2006 kit and it's a little cheaper up front.

 

[kimray]

Are you sure it’s not iron?

not according to the 2 separate test I have had done for Copper & Iron

 

[mknauss]

Tests are wrong. Pool would be Emerald Green with copper.

 

[Bperry]

not according to the 2 separate test I have had done for Copper & Iron

I was gonna say copper is usually green, iron is the rusty color stuff.

Not terribly surprising pool store tests are inaccurate, but not sure where else to get a good metals test.

 

[kimray]

Since my pool was built and I started the TFP method (late April) I think I've spent $75 total on CYA (stabilizer), MA and liquid chlorine. When I had an AGP and before I adopted this method I would have spent an easy $300-$400 at this point in the season. Add the $75 - $100 on test kit = you get it. Honestly at this point I don't anticipate having to spend any more than $20 (MA)on chemicals bc my SWG takes care of the rest. I used to spend probably $700 or more/per year on BS. Now I expect to spend $100-$200/year on simply MA, CYA and a little chlorine (compensation only). Math is simple if it's basic math. I was never good at math and this equation is simple. If $ is tight just start with the Taylor K-2006 kit and it's a little cheaper up front.

thanks! so where do I go to read about and begin the TFP Method?

 

[kimray]

Tests are wrong. Pool would be Emerald Green with copper.

well it goes from green, to yellowish to terra cotta. and the staining is always straight up terra cotta colored. So what is it??

 

[mknauss]

Iron.

 

[Newdude]

Hey Kimray and Welcome !!!!

Bperry and Herman above have helped someone such as yourself almost 5k times combined.

Jason above has been here for 5 years, Rcs for 2 years.

These folks have all seen some stuff and know of what they speak. I promise you. We have seen you, or the last you, well over 320k times. So we know your story very well but you don't know ours yet.

This is what we do
How Clear is TFP Clear?
This is how we do it
Pool Care Basics

 

[kimray]

I was gonna say copper is usually green, iron is the rusty color stuff.

Not terribly surprising pool store tests are inaccurate, but not sure where else to get a good metals test.

so what do I do?? 2 different test from 2 different stores. both show high copper and zero iron.. Man i really hate this!!

 

[mknauss]

As you add chlorine, the iron oxidizes into rust, which turns the water brown if you have enough of it in the water.

 

[mknauss]

Put fiber fill in the skimmer. See if it turns brown.

 

[kimray]

Hey Kimray and Welcome !!!!

Bperry and Herman above have helped someone such as yourself almost 5k times combined.

Jason above has been here for 5 years, Rcs for 2 years.

These folks have all seen some stuff and know of what they speak. I promise you. We have seen you, or the last you, well over 320k times. So we know your story very well but you don't know ours yet.

This is what we do
How Clear is TFP Clear?
This is how we do it
Pool Care Basics

Yea I'm seriously late to the party... But I am at wits end, so here I am ready to be your humble yes man and absorb the wisdom!!

 

[Bperry]

so what do I do?? 2 different test from 2 different stores. both show high copper and zero iron.. Man i really hate this!!

You can confirm by getting some vitamin C tablets and rubbing them on the stain. If it removes it, then it’s iron.