The ever evolving life of my AGP

I have a bonding question and Google isn't much help. Before all my equipment was located against the pool wall and was inside the bonding ring around the pool. Now that SWG & pump are outside the ring do I just tie off the current ring and link SWG (teal blob) and pump? Copper wire is the purple circle drawing

Yes, just extend your current bonding wire to your new pool pump shed plumbed with love and tears using 8AWG bare copper wire and a copper split bolt rated for under ground. Join the two wires using the split bolt and tighten the bolt to combine.

 
that is awesome 🤩 & there’s room for plenty of pool stuff with the shelf !
Do u plan on venting it in anyway so it doesn’t get too hot w/ the motor running?
 
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Do u plan on venting it in anyway so it doesn’t get too hot w/ the motor running?
It's funny because as soon as we were all done (or thought we were all done) I said, hmm. Maybe we should have vented this.... we are going to take a wait and see approach. Probably will end up, but for now it's cool enough to let it ride. Also, this shed is the furthest thing from airtight. The whole left side I have full access to, so adding in a vent later will be a pretty easy project.

Had a bad hiccup over the weekend. Got every thing hooked up, but the filter was leaking and then it got worse. Turns out there is a hairline crack right near the drain. Not sure how it happened, maybe from over tightening, or it could have been hit just right when moving it. Before forking out lots of money for a new one, we are trying to JB Weld it. We've done 2 coats outside and 1 inside so far. When I say hairline, you had to really strain to see it and water was only seeping out, not shooting. I googled a bunch and only saw one other person who fixed a filter this way. But please cross your fingers for me.
 
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I googled a bunch and only saw one other person who fixed a filter this way. But please cross your fingers for me.
Of course. :) But I am crossing them that you win a scratch off lotto ticket worth what a new filter costs. It needs to go, and yesterday. PSI doesn't put 20(?) Pounds of force on an object. It's 20 lbs X 144 Sq inches in a ft X 10 Sq ft of material inside the filter. Which is roughly 29k lbs of force. If it blows it will level the shed and throw a dangerous amount of shrapnel.
 
Of course. :) But I am crossing them that you win a scratch off lotto ticket worth what a new filter costs. It needs to go, and yesterday. PSI doesn't put 20(?) Pounds of force on an object. It's 20 lbs X 144 Sq inches in a ft X 10 Sq ft of material inside the filter. Which is roughly 29k lbs of force. If it blows it will level the shed and throw a dangerous amount of shrapnel.
Well :poop:
 
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Hey there, Kne. If you do need to run the pump I suggest making sure the filter is completely purged of air. Water is non-compressible so there won't be a lot of stored energy if it's completely full of water and does decide to give way under 20 psi. Compressed gasses are a different story and if that was mostly air under pressure it would be a huge safety concern applying any kind of pressure.
 
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Hey there, Kne. If you do need to run the pump I suggest making sure the filter is completely purged of air. Water is non-compressible so there won't be a lot of stored energy if it's completely full of water and does decide to give way under 20 psi. Compressed gasses are a different story and if that was mostly air under pressure it would be a huge safety concern applying any kind of pressure.
SO had it up and running Tuesday while I was at work and it is still leaking from somewhere. We are going to throw $ at the problem.
 

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Well, I've ordered a new filter Wednesday and it makes me crazy thinking how I paid $249 for it exactly 4 years ago and now I found the same one at a bargain at $419. I know it's like that everywhere, I work in supply chain planning so I deal with it 5 days a week but, (insert 1 four letter F word that TFP censors here). I called a few places and reached out to online stores and just the body part is sold out. When it is not sold out it is $226.

Cornelius the pool is very lucky that I am not in my KonMari phase right now, because he is NOT sparking joy.

On an FYI note. My current filter is a Hayward EC40AC. I bought it online from Amazon. After a couple hours of searching on the internet and trying to figure why the F an EC40AC was now almost $700, it seems the EC40AC can now only be sold by pool professionals and if you are buying something from an online store, you now buy W3EC40AC. It's the Expert Line vs Open, and I think it's the same exact product, with the exception of a 3 year vs 1 year warranty. From what I can guess, it's how the pool stores can justify a higher than online price.


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Well, I've ordered a new filter Wednesday and it makes me crazy thinking how I paid $249 for it exactly 4 years ago and now I found the same one at a bargain at $419. I know it's like that everywhere, I work in supply chain planning so I deal with it 5 days a week but, (insert 1 four letter F word that TFP censors here). I called a few places and reached out to online stores and just the body part is sold out. When it is not sold out it is $226.

Cornelius the pool is very lucky that I am not in my KonMari phase right now, because he is NOT sparking joy.

On an FYI note. My current filter is a Hayward EC40AC. I bought it online from Amazon. After a couple hours of searching on the internet and trying to figure why the F an EC40AC was now almost $700, it seems the EC40AC can now only be sold by pool professionals and if you are buying something from an online store, you now buy W3EC40AC. It's the Expert Line vs Open, and I think it's the same exact product, with the exception of a 3 year vs 1 year warranty. From what I can guess, it's how the pool stores can justify a higher than online price.


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Read the fine print- it must be installed by a Hayward professional to have the 3yr warranty.
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Being in the supply chain should tell you that brick and mortar has way more overhead than many online sellers who are only drop-shippers, never actually having inventory in which they have invested. We have a guy here who sells so much online he was able to join a co-op of sellers and can get inventory direct from manufacturers for less than we " little guys" can buy at wholesale.
 
Being in the supply chain should tell you that brick and mortar has way more overhead than many online sellers who are only drop-shippers, never actually having inventory in which they have invested. We have a guy here who sells so much online he was able to join a co-op of sellers and can get inventory direct from manufacturers for less than we " little guys" can buy at wholesale.
Oof. I feel like I offended you and didn't mean to offend anyone. Just explaining what I found in my research. I support the little guys, especially when hiring out for projects, but when it's something I'm DIYing, I'm gonna look for the most economical route.

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Probably a question I should know the answer to. But I'm looking for clarification. My new pool liner will be here Tuesday :) Memorial Day takes away the opportunity to replace it next weekend, so June 3rd is the day!

I want to drain it Wednesday night / Thursday and once I'm off work at noon on Friday shop vac out the rest of the water, get that liner out, do any needed repairs (hopefully minimum or none) take off the railings and get the new liner in.

The actual question, how long can my pool be up with no water, but with the stabilizers / railings / old pool liners etc.. If you take out the end of April, beginning of May I live in a gently breezed area 90% of the time. This question is during non windy days.

My pump takes out about 5 gallons a minute, but does some sort of reset every 15 minutes or so and it doesn't go as fast. I have about 5,700 gallons in it currently, I think it will take about 24 hours to drain.
 
Triple check the weather/ wind forecast!
Have a plan to brace things if necessary.
I wouldn’t plan to leave it that way for long. You will lose sleep. A day or 2 at most unless u brace.
The day of liner install have everything ready, start early & have all hands on deck. You want it hot & sunny 😎 & no wind for the majority of the fill !

Also, about the draining- do u have a cover pump? If so, use that too. U can also use your manual vacuum hose, head, & pole to create a siphon if you have a way to divert that to where u want for more draining. Just slipping it into some pvc or drainage pipes will do. Nothing has to be glued.
I have manually vac’d this way many times so I didn’t need to use my pump & also used it to drain my 6k gallon pool before I had a submersible cover pump. You can do it with as many hoses as u can muster.
 
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