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Welcome! We have almost the same pool! Mine is 6'x32'. Shallow end is just under 4.5 feet, deep end is about 5'9''. We didn't go with a spa as it would take too much space in an already small pool. We did get a heat pump to heat it up though, and it is awesome. The heat pump is a heater/chiller combo, cool it in the summer, heat it in the winter.

3.5' feet will be very shallow IMO, kids grow FAST. My 4 yr old can swim pretty decently and also has a floaty vest. I initially wanted to keep it shallower, but I realized the kids wont be kids for too long.

The auto fill and overflow are a must! Rain fills up the pool very quickly if its a strong enough rain, so you'll want it to drain quickly as well. You'll also notice that once you get more than 3 or 4 people, the water level rises quite a bit and the overflow will start dumping it out, kids playing and splashing will also displace WAY more water out than it would in a larger pool....hence the need for an auto fill. My overflow and autofill openings are regular pool return fittings. I usually leave the smaller eyeball out of the overflow to give it a bigger opening to drain if needed. If I am going to have more people, I put the eyeball back in to restrict the draining some.

Something else to add, I was late into the TFP game. I went with a pressure side cleaner that the PB included, a Polaris TR28P with a booster pump. The little guy works great. Cleans the floor great. Since the pool is small, I run it twice a week for an hour.
 
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My overflow and autofill openings are regular pool return fittings. I usually leave the smaller eyeball out of the overflow to give it a bigger opening to drain if needed. If I am going to have more people, I put the eyeball back in to restrict the draining some.
Miguel brings up some good points, and has his "two eyeball" system working for himself. I just want to point out that the PoolMiser would make what he describes a whole lot easier. As I mentioned, the overflow threshold is adjustable, and could very easily be restricted or even capped off as needed.

There's also a way to use the PoolMiser to control chemical accumulation, which occurs in every pool. It's a bit obscure and an advanced topic, so I didn't add that earlier. I was using this method just yesterday to take advantage of the big rain we just got, to exchange out some of my chemical-heavy existing water. That might get me through next swim season. I'm happy to explain more about what I'm describing, but I really am re-recommending a complete water leveling system...

 
Miguel brings up some good points, and has his "two eyeball" system working for himself. I just want to point out that the PoolMiser would make what he describes a whole lot easier. As I mentioned, the overflow threshold is adjustable, and could very easily be restricted or even capped off as needed.

There's also a way to use the PoolMiser to control chemical accumulation, which occurs in every pool. It's a bit obscure and an advanced topic, so I didn't add that earlier. I was using this method just yesterday to take advantage of the big rain we just got, to exchange out some of my chemical-heavy existing water. That might get me through next swim season. I'm happy to explain more about what I'm describing, but I really am re-recommending a complete water leveling system...


My setup works, but it's a little more involved if any changes are needed. Poolmiser looks good though!
 
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Welcome! We have almost the same pool! Mine is 6'x32'. Shallow end is just under 4.5 feet, deep end is about 5'9''. We didn't go with a spa as it would take too much space in an already small pool. We did get a heat pump to heat it up though, and it is awesome. The heat pump is a heater/chiller combo, cool it in the summer, heat it in the winter.

3.5' feet will be very shallow IMO, kids grow FAST. My 4 yr old can swim pretty decently and also has a floaty vest. I initially wanted to keep it shallower, but I realized the kids wont be kids for too long.

The auto fill and overflow are a must! Rain fills up the pool very quickly if its a strong enough rain, so you'll want it to drain quickly as well. You'll also notice that once you get more than 3 or 4 people, the water level rises quite a bit and the overflow will start dumping it out, kids playing and splashing will also displace WAY more water out than it would in a larger pool....hence the need for an auto fill. My overflow and autofill openings are regular pool return fittings. I usually leave the smaller eyeball out of the overflow to give it a bigger opening to drain if needed. If I am going to have more people, I put the eyeball back in to restrict the draining some.

Something else to add, I was late into the TFP game. I went with a pressure side cleaner that the PB included, a Polaris TR28P with a booster pump. The little guy works great. Cleans the floor great. Since the pool is small, I run it twice a week for an hour.
I’m glad to know there are other people with basically the same pool size as ours! We thought having a spa is another reason to hang out by the pool and to add a water feature. I thought about not having one too and just get those $5k spa so there’s more swim space but I’ll be ok with 5-7 strokes.I do love to dip in very warm water especially during colder seasons.
 
I’m glad to know there are other people with basically the same pool size as ours! We thought having a spa is another reason to hang out by the pool and to add a water feature. I thought about not having one too and just get those $5k spa so there’s more swim space but I’ll be ok with 5-7 strokes.I do love to dip in very warm water especially during colder seasons.

I had the pool heated to around 97-98. It was AMAZING! I could heat it past that, but my son was swimming too, it would be too hot for him. One thing I maybe could've done without was the tanning ledge. The only people that use it are little kids when playing with the bubblers. I posted some pictures of my setup. I wish I could've gone wider, but the easement prevented that...
 

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I had the pool heated to around 97-98. It was AMAZING! I could heat it past that, but my son was swimming too, it would be too hot for him. One thing I maybe could've done without was the tanning ledge. The only people that use it are little kids when playing with the bubblers. I posted some pictures of my setup. I wish I could've gone wider, but the easement prevented that...
You were not kidding when you said we have similar one. I hope mine could look like close to yours and I’ll be really happy!

I just had a chat with my PB. He explained the auto fill and how it works. I mentioned the PoolMiser. He said that the one they have for me does the same but also mentioned there’s another “thing” that required a different process to keep the level of the pool. He’ll leave some materials for me to look at when I go to the office in a few hours today.

As per not having drain, he said I have a combination of drain and skimmer already and it’s California recommendation given my pool size.

Im changing black onyx to ocean blue then using the ozone system to change salted deck to stamp concrete instead.
I’ll change my cleaner after I try out and see how the TR36 Polaris do.

Thank you again for your input. Greatly appreciate everyone’s help and will update you more as we go through the process.
 
Sorry but the Ozone thing is just magic. It will consume some of your FC and will not reduce how much chlorine you will need to add. Adding liquid chlorine every day to the pool during swim season is possible, but many tire of it quickly. The SWCG will create the chlorine for you.
I got rid of the Ozone system. Thanks. I got the money back and just used it for upgrades finish.
 
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Great. Be sure to add a SaltWater Chlorine Generator. Or have the plumber leave you a space for it as you will want one in the very near future.
 

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Great. Be sure to add a SaltWater Chlorine Generator. Or have the plumber leave you a space for it as you will want one in the very near future.
Hi Mknauss!
I finally decided to tell my PB to install swcg. He talked me out of it twice already giving corrosion as the main reason behind why I should think twice about it. He pushed for ozone again but I said no this time. After a day and paying $350 for an amendment, I’m bound to pay another amendment fee for making this decision. No regrets though.

I kept on reading the pros and cons of swcg, ozone/uv, Ecosmarte, and Nature 2 liquid chlorinator, I realized that everything has issues but swcg has more benefits and outweighs the negatives. Plus, I hate the part where it felt like all PBs talked to each other about steering clients away from salt and giving a “better replacement” in ozone system. I felt like my trust has been betrayed.

You and the rest of the TFP community have no hidden agenda for suggesting swcg except to share the joy of owning a quality pool. I thank you and everyone for this!

Vaex
 
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Miguel brings up some good points, and has his "two eyeball" system working for himself. I just want to point out that the PoolMiser would make what he describes a whole lot easier. As I mentioned, the overflow threshold is adjustable, and could very easily be restricted or even capped off as needed.

There's also a way to use the PoolMiser to control chemical accumulation, which occurs in every pool. It's a bit obscure and an advanced topic, so I didn't add that earlier. I was using this method just yesterday to take advantage of the big rain we just got, to exchange out some of my chemical-heavy existing water. That might get me through next swim season. I'm happy to explain more about what I'm describing, but I really am re-recommending a complete water leveling system...

Hello Dirk,
Aside from the swcg, I also asked for autoleveler to be installed. The PB gave me a verbal explanation how the auto fill is all I need then gave me the story how hard it’ll be to install it where they’ll need to dig something separately and do other stuff which felt like it’s going to be expensive. I just emailed him tonight so I still don’t know how much it’ll cost. In the end, it’s a non-negotiable for our peace of mind especially since we’ll be at home mostly on weekends and long holiday breaks. Thank you for giving me the strength to push for it!

Vaex
 
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Moved from here.. Switching to Salt Water -- variable speed pump question


Is all of your equipment Jandy? If so, you need to get a Jandy salt water chlorine generator. If I were you I would call Jandy and ask them about the compatibility of your current Jandy system with their current saltwater chlorine generators. Make sure they give you confirmation in writing. My Jandy system is completely automated and I can tell whether or not I have flow as well as the current salt level. I am sure that if their current SWCG system is compatible with your control system and pump they will guide you in the right direction. This will ensure that your SWCG works with your iaqualink.
Hi Puter Guy!
I’m in the permit part of the process and decided to add swcg. My PB uses Jandy so I assume he’ll use the Jandy salt system like yours. May I ask you once in a when I end up having issues?

My PB actually was pushing for ozone and for a while I agreed. Just changed my mind after reading all the pros and cons of pool systems. Did you encounter corrosion using Jandy? Have you experienced any issues due to swcg? Thanks in advance!

Vaex
 
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Veggie,

One thing that may determine the brand of swg you use is your installation method. If you're going to use a professional, authorized dealer then I'd go with Jandy to get full control of the swg and just make sure you don't accidentally get a model that also uses a mineral cartridge. If you're going to DIY the install consider 3rd party brands like Circupool. The major brands cut your warranty dramatically if you DIY. For Jandy it's cut to zero. 3rd party brands give you your full warranty and often it's better than the major brands. I had a Jandy automation and switched to Pentair after a lightning strike. Both work fine with my Circupool. I can't control % power remotely but I don't need to change that more than once per year. Schedule changes a couple times per year once the unit is lined out and you can easily do that with any automation system.

Also just to clarify, the chlorine produced works just like chlorine from liquid or tablets so you can have chloramines or any other oxidation product of chlorine. So you still have a salt pool. Many of the benefits you hear about like the "spa like" water are due to the very small amount of salt that is added. Many spa's do this also. You add enough to be about the same as your tears contain. Almost everybody that uses chlorine has a salt pool but they don't realize it. Chlorine reacts to make salts and after a year or two this can be over 1000 ppm. Salt pools with swg typically use 3500 ppm. Ocean water is about 10 times this. The salt is recycled within your pool so the only time you have to add more salt is when you drain water.

By the way, we love our swg and my wife won't ever let me switch back. She says it feels like a spa and is way less harsh on her skin and hair.

I hope this helps.

Chris

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Chris is spot on, you won’t regret it.plus it makes chemical management almost non existent other then adding a little acid every couple of weeks.
I think having the constant supply of FC 24/7 makes a huge difference
 
Veggie,

One thing that may determine the brand of swg you use is your installation method. If you're going to use a professional, authorized dealer then I'd go with Jandy to get full control of the swg and just make sure you don't accidentally get a model that also uses a mineral cartridge. If you're going to DIY the install consider 3rd party brands like Circupool. The major brands cut your warranty dramatically if you DIY. For Jandy it's cut to zero. 3rd party brands give you your full warranty and often it's better than the major brands. I had a Jandy automation and switched to Pentair after a lightning strike. Both work fine with my Circupool. I can't control % power remotely but I don't need to change that more than once per year. Schedule changes a couple times per year once the unit is lined out and you can easily do that with any automation system.

Also just to clarify, the chlorine produced works just like chlorine from liquid or tablets so you can have chloramines or any other oxidation product of chlorine. So you still have a salt pool. Many of the benefits you hear about like the "spa like" water are due to the very small amount of salt that is added. Many spa's do this also. You add enough to be about the same as your tears contain. Almost everybody that uses chlorine has a salt pool but they don't realize it. Chlorine reacts to make salts and after a year or two this can be over 1000 ppm. Salt pools with swg typically use 3500 ppm. Ocean water is about 10 times this. The salt is recycled within your pool so the only time you have to add more salt is when you drain water.

By the way, we lover our swg and my wife won't ever let me switch back. She says it feels like a spa and is way less harsh on her skin and hair.

I hope this helps.

Chris

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Thank you, Chris!
I made some changes to my signature but it’s still in the process since I dont know what type of swcg I’m going to get from my PB. I just made my final decision to go salt system last night a d emailed it. Last I talked, when the PB was able to talked me out of the salt system, he said there’s a 3 year warranty only but the corrosion will be seen only after it. After reading all the pros and cons of each system and seeing that everything has their own, the benefits of swcg outweighs everything else given my context. I’ll clarify that I don’t accidentally get anything with mineral cartridges. I’ll probably get a Jandy because that’s been the PBS go to.

Thanks again, Chris!
 
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Chris is spot on, you won’t regret it.plus it makes chemical management almost non existent other then adding a little acid every couple of weeks.
I think having the constant supply of FC 24/7 makes a huge difference
Mark!
Thanks for the feedback as well! I still am not fluent with the terms and expert eight he
Chemistry and Math but I am working on it. Still in the permit part of the process. Looking forward to the approval and the walkthrough. I feel like the PB and the Project Manager only want to do the things that they’re comfortable with because when I ask for auto drain/autoleveler, the response was we don’t install that. Same response about a stamped concrete with the pavers pattern. Funny thing is, both my neighbors have the same PB and they have both things I asked about. I hate being lied to! :(

Vaex
 
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Hi Vaex
Great that you have decided to go with an SWG system. You won't be disappointed. Your PB does not know what he is talking about. I put a SWG system in my pool in 2005.. and there IS NO CORROSION! The salinity is just too low for that to happen. @setsailsoon was spot on with everything he said except one minor tidbit.. the typical SWG operates at half the salinity (3400ppm) of your tears (7000ppm) and Ocean is 10x that (34000ppm).. So you would be more apt to get corrosion from the sea breeze depending on where you are in Discovery Bay.

Stick to your guns on what you want... PB's are notorious for doing what is easier for them... look at how much you are spending on your pool. I haven't looked yet, Do you have a thread for your pool build? No doubt you have seen the build threads where we give advice on dealing with crotchety PB's ;)
 
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Hi Vaex
Great that you have decided to go with an SWG system. You won't be disappointed. Your PB does not know what he is talking about. I put a SWG system in my pool in 2005.. and there IS NO CORROSION! The salinity is just too low for that to happen. @setsailsoon was spot on with everything he said except one minor tidbit.. the typical SWG operates at half the salinity (3400ppm) of your tears (7000ppm) and Ocean is 10x that (340000ppm).. So you would be more apt to get corrosion from the sea breeze depending on where you are in Discovery Bay.

Stick to your guns on what you want... PB's are notorious for doing what is easier for them... look at how much you are spending on your pool. I haven't looked yet, Do you have a thread for your pool build? No doubt you have seen the build threads where we give advice on dealing with crotchety PB's ;)
Thanks, mguzzy! I have a Disco Pool thread as my introduction. I am not familiar on how to post it here using my phone but will figure it out soon. You’re right, I have to keep on thinking how much I’m spending and will co to use to spend, and how my over al lifestyle will adjust given this project. Having a pool is definitely a life changer.
Vaex
 

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