Pool Math........The App

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Has there been any thought given to creating a new forum badge for those of us that are Pool Math annual subscribers?

Maybe a second badge to supplement a forum badge or a totally new one to indicate both app and forum support?

I realize that it may be cumbersome to administer as the Pool Math subscription is annual and the forum support is a once and done thing, but something to consider since, in the end, subscribing to the app is not any different than supporting the forum.
 
Has there been any thought given to creating a new forum badge for those of us that are Pool Math annual subscribers?
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I think that is a great idea. It's easy for me to say that because I have no idea how much work is involved but I really like the idea. I'll bet we hear some feedback to see if it is feasible
 
I agree. I like the idea and have begun discussions on feasibility. First thought though is that it would be difficult to implement the additional usergroups as well as having to track active subscriptions.

Everyone has the option of listing it in their signature, although I know that does not have the same "prestige" as a new badge. ;)
 
griffths said:
....but something to consider since, in the end, subscribing to the app is not any different than supporting the forum.
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I would disagree with this statement. A lot of the funds that go into the App subscription pay for its on-going development and for the computing resources needed to support it (it requires server storage space and some paid plugins). I don’t have intimate knowledge of the finances around here but I would suspect only a tiny portion of the App subscription price makes its way to TFP.

Also, logically speaking, supporting the site is much more important than purchasing the App subscription. TFP can and does exist entirely on its own and does not need the App. The App, in and of itself, is useless without the vast knowledge base of the forum.

So, in my mind at least, a supporter badge for helping to keep this incredible resource alive is far more important than one that would show you use an app....

Just so there’s a contrary opinion ;)
 
BKJ said:
Great app and really love it. This is my 2nd year now and well worth the $8 for the logging and support. When you have a moment, can you please explain how one updates the target values once the initial pool configuration has been entered.
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I thank you for the kind words and the support! I'd like to answer this question in two separate ways as there's kinda two answers here. Let's use FC for example,
On the advice page if you click on the "Target" value it'll bring up the keyboard so you can enter in a new desired target. Change this and your target updates UNTIL you leave the advice page. Now I'm going to assume you knew that but you're wanting to make that change permanently, as that's been a common request. At this time targets will keep defaulting back to TFP's suggested targets as we wish to keep the App a teaching tool for new users. We left it this way to make sure new users don't accidentally alter the forums suggestions and change it to a level that's going to cause an issue. In the past we've seen users having to SLAM their pools after they edited the FC target too low and didn't remember to change it back on the webpage.

Now granted this "punishes" power users who do wish to alter the target levels as they understand what's going on. Commonly we hear from users who wish to maintain a slightly higher FC level than the target to give some wiggle room and make sure they stay above the minimum. Jon and I have an idea to assist these power users that we'll start on here in a few months once we start working on the next major update.

BKJ said:
Also, can you please add the following chemical to the available "expense type" [Cyanuric Acid]?
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Hello Epic.......my name's fail!
How in the world did I miss this one. :( I'll update Jon on this ASAP and get it added to be addressed on the next bug update.

griffths said:
Has there been any thought given to creating a new forum badge for those of us that are Pool Math annual subscribers?

Maybe a second badge to supplement a forum badge or a totally new one to indicate both app and forum support?

I realize that it may be cumbersome to administer as the Pool Math subscription is annual and the forum support is a once and done thing, but something to consider since, in the end, subscribing to the app is not any different than supporting the forum.
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I'm LOVING the fact that users are seeing how the App is also being used to fund the forum. As you mentioned all of TFP's cut of the App goes directly back to TFP and making sure we can continue to teach and develop TFPC. My gut says in the near future you'll start to see these funds being put to use.

While I'd love to give props to those who have subscribed as you mentioned administrating this is almost impossible. The main reason is because TFP doesn't automatically see subscription data unless the user requests we take a look at their account. What this means is that we don't get any notice a user has subscribed as it's all handled by the App stores. Unless there's an issue.......we never know what's going on. One way you can highlite your subscription is by adding something to the tune of "Proud PoolMath Subscriber" link to your signature. This will give you some well deserved credit plus get the word out to others that you're awesome!
 
First of all, LOVE the app, been using and subscribing from day one; keep up the good work!!!

So, not sure if this is a feature request or quick question on best practices? I scoured this thread, but did not find my question asked by others. Ok, the overview screen always reflects the last test(s), but not the results of my chem add's after I test, right? Point being, after I have added my 'suggested chemicals' (which are spot on after you dial everything in), ie. 20oz of 34% Acid to bring my PH down from 7.8 to 7.4, should I then add another fake test log to reflect the change to update the overview screen or just leave it showing my last test of 7.8?? My brain keeps telling me that the overview screen should be the result/compilation of both tests AND adds, not just tests, but I do not feel the need to conduct a second tests to validate my adds (acid and in the off change i need to add Chlorine during seasonal change % of my SWG). The next time I test(lets say the following weekend), it would be nice to know what my starting point was without having to drill into the CSI screen to manipulate see my starting point from last weeks add.

So, long explanation to ask for a feature request to have a toggle on the chem add page to impact the overview page, or just simply create another log to update the overview page even though I'm not actually testing a second time....Or is it best practice to actually test twice, once before and once an hour or so later?

Thanks!
 
I am not sure I see the reason to display what you think the currently chemical levels are.
I think it is best to only input test results and then what you added to adjust them.
If you want the overview screen to display the levels after the additions, then I think it best to actually test and enter the results. But, if adding a fake set of test results helps you, then by all means add it.
 
jblizzle said:
I am not sure I see the reason to display what you think the currently chemical levels are.
I think it is best to only input test results and then what you added to adjust them.
If you want the overview screen to display the levels after the additions, then I think it best to actually test and enter the results. But, if adding a fake set of test results helps you, then by all means add it.
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Yeah, i hear ya...I guess it's technically a guess, but after maintaining my pool to the TFP standard for over a year now, my chem adds are super predicable and accurate. Just curious if others wanted the overview screen to reflect both the tests and the adds. I 'think' I do, haha. I initially tested before and after any adds to be sure my adds were doing what I thought they were doing and what pool math told they should be doing, but at this point, they are rock solid...Thanks to TFP!!

Dose anyone else add a second test log after adds to update the overview screen??? maybe i'm just crazy, lol. I'm an ODC perfectionist type that want to open the app I want to see a perfectly balance pool not levels that always need adds, haha

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Leebo said:
Scott,
If you could, can you please email the idea to [email protected] as I've got a few more thoughts that I'd like to share in private. :D

Thanks!
Lee
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Done! Thanks!
 

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I typically only add acid because I have an SWG. When I add acid, I usually test a few hours later to update pH and TA. It’s a real test data log, no guesses.

And yes, I can practically guess the numbers and will almost always be spot on. I just test anyway because reagents are cheap and results are important.
 
JoyfulNoise said:
I typically only add acid because I have an SWG. When I add acid, I usually test a few hours later to update pH and TA. It’s a real test data log, no guesses.

And yes, I can practically guess the numbers and will almost always be spot on. I just test anyway because reagents are cheap and results are important.
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Hard to argue with your logic...that's certainly the most accurate way to update the overview screen. To be honest, I never 'really' thought about it as a test, add, wait, test/verify methodology as a best practice each session. I guess we should update pool school or the app to include testing twice a session as a best practice if the app is designed to follow the pool math, pool school process and education?

I know I'm over analyzing :hammer: .....I'll just double log and be happy!!!
 
I test pH and FC 3-4 times a week. Test TAand CH weekly and CYA monthly. I log the results on my once a week testing. Temp and Salt show up every time I look at my automation app so that’s several times a week. I add whatever is required (usually just MA due to salt cell). I then log any additions made. I don’t second test but will consider...
 
Kroezer95 said:
Dose anyone else add a second test log after adds to update the overview screen??? maybe i'm just crazy, lol. I'm an ODC perfectionist type that want to open the app I want to see a perfectly balance pool not levels that always need adds, hahas
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A OCD perfectionist would test after the chemical additions.... and then at least once more to be sure the first test was right.

I guess ODC perfectionist isn't as concerned... Lol

For me I don't want an assumed result to be shown. Besides assuming that first test was perfectly done, you then assume that the exact level of chemicals were added, and then assume that chemicals added are at full strength and hasn't changed due to heat or age. I can already make an assumption that test levels are all norm if I made the suggested change. If I'm really concerned I test after adding the chemicals and retest.
 
bobandsherry said:
A OCD perfectionist would test after the chemical additions.... and then at least once more to be sure the first test was right.

I guess ODC perfectionist isn't as concerned... Lol

For me I don't want an assumed result to be shown. Besides assuming that first test was perfectly done, you then assume that the exact level of chemicals were added, and then assume that chemicals added are at full strength and hasn't changed due to heat or age. I can already make an assumption that test levels are all norm if I made the suggested change. If I'm really concerned I test after adding the chemicals and retest.
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lol, ok, ok, ya got me. Now I have to test 4 times this weekend to produce a perfectly accurate 'overview' screen and redeem my OCD badge!! :cheers:.
 
Just got my apple auto renewal. Love the app but I liked it better when I first signed up for it. I wish you did not have to go to another page when you want to fill in Maintenance and Notes. As I recall these were all on the same page and I keep forgetting that these are available but you have to swip/ open separate pages.
 

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