I have been following this thread for a while now, & am inclined to choose the MX8 over The Pool Cleaner, if I go for a suction-side cleaner at all. I am satisfied with my Polaris 380 ( and was ok with the 180 & 280 as well, dating from 1984 ). I re-plumbed my equipment pad for both types, and will continue to use the 380 during "big leaf seasons". Both popular suction cleaners can probably handle my neighbor's Liquidamber leaves in the fall, but definately not my Monkey-Puzzle "leaves" ( 14" to 18" long, 1-1/5" in diameter and prickley ). The stuff tha falls year-round into the pool, is 1,000's of Atlas Cedar needles ( 1-1/4" ) & Monterey PIne needles ( twin needles 12" to 15" long ). Any MX8 owners have any experience with these year-round varieties?