Will the Industry Ever Change CYA/FC Parameters?

[Dirk]

I'm very new here still learning a ton. I checked out some info from CDC etc and it appears 1-10ppm FC is recommended if I am understanding correctly . If I check the TFP charts it shows for example a SWG pool with 70 cya needing 5ppm FC. Is this considered high if its within range of CDCs recommendation?

In my mind, defining the FC min/max as a stand-alone requirement doesn't actually address the real world problem, which ultimately the pool user gets subjected to. If it's 1-10, or 1- 5, or 0.5-whatever, regardless of CYA, that still leaves the rather gaping hole of how to MAINTAIN the level. It's one thing for the CDC to declare what FC level is safe, but are they addressing, or at all concerned with, how that is to be accomplished (is that their job)? We all know here that if there is too little CYA (the ratio aside for now) FC will vanish in as little as a few hours, or less, in an outdoor pool in the middle of summer. So while they argue over the numbers, the swimmer going for a dip in a hotel pool somewhere is bathing in filth... If they are now even mentioning CYA in any sort of context, I suppose that is a baby step in the right direction.

To JC707's question, and this applies to TFP advice, CDC rulings, or that of a pool guy, pool store, neighbor, whoever: if you attempt to use or make sense of more than one set of advice, your pool will likely suffer or outright fail as a result. Pick one, and follow it, and ignore all others. Obviously, TFP believes you should pick their guidelines. If you do, and have an SWG in an outdoor pool, bring your CYA to 70 and your FC to at least 5 and know that you will be swimming in safe water.

 

[mguzzy]

If they are now even mentioning CYA in any sort of context, I suppose that is a baby step in the right direction.

And that is it! baby steps.. welcome to the land of bureaucracy.

 

[JC707]

Thanks Dirk! What has me confused is ok say for example in my state if California they say max FC is 10ppm. When my pool is built I plan to follow TFPs guidelines and I will have a SWCG pool. So if my CYA is 70-80, FC will still be well under the 10ppm max FC levels. So no sure why people (outside this forum) are worried if it meets those guidelines?

I've glanced around different parts of the internet sphere and people seem to be worried about anything above 0.5-1ppm range. And I think to those people well what is the big deal if I am following TFP protocols and my FC levels are under the recommended levels? Do they want a 0.000 FC pool perhaps?

 

[mguzzy]

Do they want a 0.000 FC pool perhaps?

Yes.. there is a fringe group that think a 0 FC pool is still sanitary if you are using other magical devices that the manufactures claim work.... snake oil, snake oil to them all. I think I can sell them the perpetual motion machine I keep in my garage prolly, too.