Which Pool Robot?

May 31, 2014
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Springfield, IL
I’m looking to purchase a robotic pool cleaner. I’ve budgeted $1000.

I stopped at a Leslie’s too look and they have the Polaris 825 for $899. They weren’t able to tell me anything about the longevity or warranty on it. She did also suggest a Dolphin model but they don’t sell those. The reviews of the Dolphin models aren’t that great on Amazon. Then I looked at the Hayward Tiger Shark and now I’m even more stumped.

I’m looking for something that does stairs and walls. My pool is 18x36, 29,000 gallons. Saltwater.

Looking for suggestions on what has worked for you.

Thanks!!
 
I am also looking at a dolphin. I could be wrong, but it seems that Maytronics (dolphin manufacture) makes several different models very close to each other. so the Dolphin/Active/Doheny's are all the same. I am looking at the Dolphin s300 which I believe is the Active 30, the Active is $300 less.
Hopefully that helps a little, this subject is quite confusing
 
Can only speak for myself. I have a dolphin premier. It runs around 3 hours nearly everyday. Climbs walls, cleans great. I guess the only con I would give it is the filter is on the bottom so you need to pull it out of the pool and turn it on it’s side to get to the filter bay. Otherwise I have own it for nearly two years and it’s amazing. They do make models that are top side filter loaded.
 
We are currently shopping for our third pool bot. Our first was a Dolphin DX3, our most recent a Polaris P825. The differences between the two are remarkable; both have their respective strengths. That being said, I am undecided as to whether we will try another manufacturer or return to Maytronics or Polaris.

The Dolphin's strengths:
- fine (sub-micron?) corrugated filters pull everything out the bot manages to suck up
- 60' cord allowed it to reach the entire pool (freeform, 28K gal.)
- accessibility of customer service; spoke with a product manager who encouraged me to leave it the bot water (provided we maintained healthy water)
- 5400+ duty hours before giving up the ghost

The Dolphin's weaknesses:
- Heavy
- Smaller filter capacity, requiring more frequent cleaning (and more prone to debris clogging the intake)
- PITA to clean (you'll be in the 'splash zone')
- Didn't climb well (note: the DX3 was billed as climbing walls, but not to the waterline, so it performed w/in expectations)

The P825 strengths:
- Climbed like Dean Potter (at least until it died - again, like Dean Potter) - would have straight escaped the pool if not tethered like a wild horse
- No problem climbing 90 degree benches and stairs (we named it 'Gnarls' for its proclivity to jump off benches)
- Transparent canister lid allows for easy checking of debris without removing the bot
- Filter canister is a breeze to remove and clean (vs. the 15 min. process to clean the DX3)
- Light as a feather compared to the DX3, thus easier to extract
- Points for the active scrubbing brushes, which kept the tile at/above the water line the cleanest it had ever been

P825 weaknesses:
- Finer particulates pass through mesh filter
- Weight loss comes at the expense of durability (the handle is a weak link in the design)
- 50' cord kept it from reaching end of deepest bowl, requiring brushing 1-2x per week
- Not as robust (approx. 30% of duty hours before dying)
- Having to deal with Leslie's (in our experience untrustworthy, and have a stranglehold on parts that often cost almost as much as the bot)

While our experience is limited to these two bots, the delta between their respective strength and weaknesses kind of surprised me. Though I guess the same could be said for other areas of home robotics (e.g., robot vacs) as well, so maybe it shouldn't have.

However, the most telling thing in our experience is that after owning these two, we aren't exactly rushing back to replace either of them. If I thought I could get the same use out of the Polaris as I did the DX3, I would likely go back to the Polaris, even though it required more active pool maintenance on my part (the brushing only takes a couple minutes to cover the area the bot could not). However, I am spoiled enough on the P825's waterline/tile scrubbing prowess that I am not inclined to return to the DX, either.

In the end, I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all perfect bot; the choice will largely be dependent on your needs, preferences, and requirements.

If you are willing to pull the bot after each use, despite my hang-ups with Leslie's and the bot's shortcomings, I would probably recommend the P825. But if durability/longevity are primary concerns, I would consider similarly-priced Maytronics offerings as well (CC Plus, maybe?).
 
We are currently shopping for our third pool bot. Our first was a Dolphin DX3, our most recent a Polaris P825. The differences between the two are remarkable; both have their respective strengths. That being said, I am undecided as to whether we will try another manufacturer or return to Maytronics or Polaris.

The Dolphin's strengths:
- fine (sub-micron?) corrugated filters pull everything out the bot manages to suck up
- 60' cord allowed it to reach the entire pool (freeform, 28K gal.)
- accessibility of customer service; spoke with a product manager who encouraged me to leave it the bot water (provided we maintained healthy water)
- 5400+ duty hours before giving up the ghost

The Dolphin's weaknesses:
- Heavy
- Smaller filter capacity, requiring more frequent cleaning (and more prone to debris clogging the intake)
- PITA to clean (you'll be in the 'splash zone')
- Didn't climb well (note: the DX3 was billed as climbing walls, but not to the waterline, so it performed w/in expectations)

The P825 strengths:
- Climbed like Dean Potter (at least until it died - again, like Dean Potter) - would have straight escaped the pool if not tethered like a wild horse
- No problem climbing 90 degree benches and stairs (we named it 'Gnarls' for its proclivity to jump off benches)
- Transparent canister lid allows for easy checking of debris without removing the bot
- Filter canister is a breeze to remove and clean (vs. the 15 min. process to clean the DX3)
- Light as a feather compared to the DX3, thus easier to extract
- Points for the active scrubbing brushes, which kept the tile at/above the water line the cleanest it had ever been

P825 weaknesses:
- Finer particulates pass through mesh filter
- Weight loss comes at the expense of durability (the handle is a weak link in the design)
- 50' cord kept it from reaching end of deepest bowl, requiring brushing 1-2x per week
- Not as robust (approx. 30% of duty hours before dying)
- Having to deal with Leslie's (in our experience untrustworthy, and have a stranglehold on parts that often cost almost as much as the bot)

While our experience is limited to these two bots, the delta between their respective strength and weaknesses kind of surprised me. Though I guess the same could be said for other areas of home robotics (e.g., robot vacs) as well, so maybe it shouldn't have.

However, the most telling thing in our experience is that after owning these two, we aren't exactly rushing back to replace either of them. If I thought I could get the same use out of the Polaris as I did the DX3, I would likely go back to the Polaris, even though it required more active pool maintenance on my part (the brushing only takes a couple minutes to cover the area the bot could not). However, I am spoiled enough on the P825's waterline/tile scrubbing prowess that I am not inclined to return to the DX, either.

In the end, I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all perfect bot; the choice will largely be dependent on your needs, preferences, and requirements.

If you are willing to pull the bot after each use, despite my hang-ups with Leslie's and the bot's shortcomings, I would probably recommend the P825. But if durability/longevity are primary concerns, I would consider similarly-priced Maytronics offerings as well (CC Plus, maybe?).

A lot of the "weaknesses" you addressed with your Maytronics DX3 have been fixed with the S and M series of robots. My Discovery (S200) climbs like a dream, has a huge basket that opens from the top and I haven't ruined pair of shoes yet.
 
I'm considering the Dolphin Premier or Polaris 9550 models but leaning toward the former due to its SmartNav feature and 3yr warranty. I have a Polaris P825 which did an excellent job but it is on the blink at the moment. I never had a problem with it picking up fine particles and it ran around the pool like a horse on a mission.

Ralph
 
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