What is this light? GloBrite?

[gdo]

Hi everyone,

I've changed a few GloBrites before (PN 60205x - see Need to replace broken lights - what make/model are these? ) and I'm now faced with another light failure in a water feature. The light looks different, although it is connected to the same Pentair EasyTouch system.

The front part seems different from the other lights, and I can't find a matching light on Pentair's site. I tried googling the part number I could read with no luck (PN 100.3008).

Does anyone know what light this is and how to replace it?

I'm attaching 3 pictures:
1) 1 of the 2 lights still in working order (although I expect it to fail soon given the water that seems o have gone in - I will see if I can try to seal it better before it fails). This is not the light I'm currently working on but it's its twin.
2) the cover of the light that is broken
3) the circuit board (with LEDs) of the light that is broken. The LEDs seems to be in a + pattern, whereas the other ones I had changed (60205x) were in a triangular pattern I think.

Thanks in advance for any pointers!

gdo

 

[ajw22]

@1poolman1 @wireform @98Poolmaster @Lake Placid @Poolbreh ideas?

 

[98Poolmaster]

@1poolman1 @wireform @98Poolmaster @Lake Placid @Poolbreh ideas?

 

[gdo]

Google Image search returns nothing.
It's got to be a Pentair product if it hooks up to the EasyTouch and works in sync with the other GloBrites right?

 

[Turbo1Ton]

Google Image search returns nothing.
It's got to be a Pentair product if it hooks up to the EasyTouch and works in sync with the other GloBrites right?

The UL file number listed on the PCB, E321060, is registered to a company named Leixinda Electronics Co. LTD in Shenzen China. Searching that name brings up this Jandy site which appears to be your light shown (Nicheless LED Pool Lights | Jandy)

--Jeff

 

[gdo]

The UL file number listed on the PCB, E321060, is registered to a company named Leixinda Electronics Co. LTD in Shenzen China. Searching that name brings up this Jandy site which appears to be your light shown (Nicheless LED Pool Lights | Jandy)

--Jeff

Wow! yes you're right! How did you get from the PCB to Jandy? I did the same search and ended up on EVCO - E321060 - CIRCUIT BOARDS - Industrial Repair Service but not Leixinda.

Great Google-Fu!!!
I think that's exactly what this light is. Thanks a lot!

Now for the life of me I can't figure out how it got sync'd with the rest of the GloBrites since all I read is that it doesn't actually support the same "power protocol" that determines its color scheme. Is it possible that there is a "protocol converter" somewhere between the easytouch and the Jandy lights to translate Pentair's protocol into something the Jandy light can understand?

Since I have to replace it, would it make sense to switch to a Nicheless MicroBrite?

I'm still wondering why the builder put that light in instead of a GloBrite/MicroBrite. Perhaps there are size constraints that I don't know about. I suspect I need to pull out that light to see what the conduit looks like behind it. It seems to have been "grouted in" so I'm thinking of removing about 1-2 mm of grout around the visible part to "free it" before I can pull it. Does that make sense or is there a simpler way to go about it?

Thanks again!

 

[Turbo1Ton]

Wow! yes you're right! How did you get from the PCB to Jandy? I did the same search and ended up on EVCO - E321060 - CIRCUIT BOARDS - Industrial Repair Service but not Leixinda.

Great Google-Fu!!!
I think that's exactly what this light is. Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately I just got lucky finding the Jandy site. I Googled Leixinda pool lights and Jandy was one of the first that was on the list.

Now for the life of me I can't figure out how it got sync'd with the rest of the GloBrites since all I read is that it doesn't actually support the same "power protocol" that determines its color scheme. Is it possible that there is a "protocol converter" somewhere between the easytouch and the Jandy lights to translate Pentair's protocol into something the Jandy light can understand?

I've got no idea on this.

Perhaps there are size constraints that I don't know about. I suspect I need to pull out that light to see what the conduit looks like behind it. It seems to have been "grouted in" so I'm thinking of removing about 1-2 mm of grout around the visible part to "free it" before I can pull it. Does that make sense or is there a simpler way to go about it?

It appears that you can replace just the 'guts' out of the Jandy light. https://cdn.fluidrausa.com/-/media/...2600.pdf?rev=e6808b7039eb4828bd84c1e896f84f30
Pages 13/14 discuss this.

Otherwise, I would gently scrape/remove just the edges of the grout, to free up the light housing, so that you can pull it from the fitting it is installed in, just like you describe above.

Good luck!

--Jeff

 

[gdo]

It appears that you can replace just the 'guts' out of the Jandy light. https://cdn.fluidrausa.com/-/media/...2600.pdf?rev=e6808b7039eb4828bd84c1e896f84f30
Pages 13/14 discuss this.

Indeed that seems doable, but perhaps only for some of the SKUs (the longer lights perhaps? the diagram shows a circuit board that doesn't look like my light). I can't find where to buy the cartridge only (what you call "the guts"): even the Jandy website doesn't return any light product with the keyword "cartridge" (which is what they use in the manual).

I think these lights may have been obsoleted, because their Jandy product page Nicheless LED Pool Lights | Jandy is showing under "Archived Lighting". I found a whole light replacement on Amazon (Amazon.com) but no light cartridge anywhere...
It looks like I'm not the only one struggling to find a cartridge:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pools/comments/p6f6z1/jandy_experts_need_help_finding_a_replacement_led

If I have to replace the whole thing with a full wire pull, I might as well go the way of the MicroBrite.

Otherwise, I would gently scrape/remove just the edges of the grout, to free up the light housing, so that you can pull it from the fitting it is installed in, just like you describe above.

I'd imagine this is threaded into a wall fitting, right? (given the instructions on page 6 of the doc you linked)
So after freeing it up from the grout, I think I need to unscrew it from the fitting before pulling back straight. Does that make sense? I don't have the lens key they mention in the doc, but I think I can figure an equivalent out with other kinds of tools.
I've been wondering about this about the install process: once you have the wire in the conduit, doesn't this "thead it in" process twist the wire into the conduit into a counter-torque reaction that wants to unwind the light back out of the fitting? It looks like you need to do more than a couple of turns given the threading I see in the MicroBrite pictures.