Well water chemistry - new plaster pool build

Is there a gap between the outside wall of the pool structure and the earth? If so, will you be filling that with gravel? Around these parts, the steeltex isn’t needed simply because the soil is heavy clay and caliche. You build the rebar right up to the earth (offset with chairs and spacers to ensure the rebar is properly encased) and then blast away with the shotcrete.

I admit I like the framing and steeltex better but it’s just not something the forming companies do around here for pools. I suppose if you pay them enough, they make your pool walls out of platinum, but the standard forming process doesn’t use the waterproof backing like steeltex.

That pool shell of your will double as an Ark when the earth floods again … you’ll be like Kevin Costner in Water World … 😂
Yes, they over excavate all around the pool then install the vertical 2X4's that form the support for the steeltex paper-backed support. This is needed because of the soft sand proclivity to cave in. Here's a pretty neat Bob Villa video that shows the process by Blue Haven pools. In mine the wall against the house is critical so the sand doesn't fall out from load bearing beams and footers in the house slab. So I flashed a couple yard of gunite directly on the dirt to limit any kind of erosion during Florida storms that may occur. We also over layed with plastic to further protect this wall. The flashing process was pretty tricky since the force of the gunite gun blast can cause the sand to fall by itself. This is another example of why I required certified, experienced applicator. An inexperienced gun man could have caused BIG problems. They start at the bottom and build up in thin layers at first then after it sets a little they build thickness. The back fill operation is critical. Compacting is done in 12" max lifts with water spray and tamping at the bottom then vibrating compactors around the pool. Most pools I've seen fail at this in Florida and cost the home owner a lot of money because the paver surround starts to fall and get waves all around that make it pretty ugly. Very expensive to repair because all the block has to be removed then subsurface has to be compacted properly then re-install pavers. Well over $10K for a standard 10,000 gal pool. Back fill is not a super expensive cost and it's amazing to me that builders don't pay attention to this.

Steeltex is actually a fibreglass infused waxed paper material with welded wire mesh attached. Pretty cool stuff. We over-sized all walls from standard 6" to 12" and will install double mat rebar to be super conservative on this design. So it probably could indeed perform like at least a dinghy for the Ark! Incremental cost of this conservative approach is about $15,000. Most quality builders seem to only do this on the unsupported infinity walls and every gunite company I short-listed told me that would not build a 6" infinity wall.

Chris
 
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24 Feb Update

We've had 1 1/2 days of excavation and 1 1/2 days of forming. The trend continues for me. The smaller the project the more I learn! It's been over 40 years since I got to do the field construction management for the house year before last and now the pool. I've always said those were the most fun parts of my career and it's great to be finishing up doing what I love to do. I'm very fortunate. We've got a great team of pool crafts working on this job and superb extended team supporting at TFP with super smart technical people and at least one lady that seems to have a direct connection for prayer support!

We should have all the wire and forming completed mid next week and be ready for final inspection. So I'm lining up to shoot gunite a week from this coming Monday. We have to leave this Sunday for some minor medical stuff in Houston next week but should be back before the planned shoot. I'm very comfortable the lead guy with my forming sub will do a great job to make sure we finish with quality and on time. Robbi with Malone Forming and Steel has essentially been leading both crews from the start. He'll send the photos and I'll re-post as we go.

Chris
 
Video link worked great for me!! Awesome view of the inside of the pool. Once the gunite is in place, you’re going to be tempted to just fill it up with water and start swimming 🏊

I don’t remember the plumbing plans but which side will the returns be on? The house side?
 
I'll have 4 returns pointing straight up from the floor just inside the infinity wall. Several experienced builders have indicated this is the best way to help even out the flow. My forming contractor is working on a huge 10' deep pool right on the water and he said they're doing the same thing. I'm learning a lot from him and he's learning a little from me (he had never flashed gunite before). He also liked the idea of a combined kickoff with the excavation contractor. We'll have the rest on the house side. Not really used like my previous pool to push surface water to a skimmer since the pool is essentially one big skimmer.

Chris
 
The well water at site is too aggressive for filling a plaster pool. A Bicarb startup would be advised to rectify that issue.
Another concern is the presence of manganese that would be likely cause staining and should be filtered out prior to filling.
Thanks @onBalance. I'll contact some water companies about getting pool water tomorrow.
 
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